RSSBREAKING- Natalee Holloway – Something Bad has Happenned
BREAKING : Commentors on our site have breaking news from Aruba
FOX NEWS SCROLL : NO CONFESSION MADE IN NATALEE HOLLOWAY MURDER!!!
Abraham Jones will be released tomorow !
Reports of a search for a body are false.
!!!Tom Opinion!!! Rumors of CNN annoying Aruban officials may be true. I wonder if CNN was set up on this? !!!Tom Opinion!!!!
A relative said her family continues to believe she is alive. Rumors raging on the island that she is dead are “an aggressive interpretation” of what police are saying, Jar Twitty, the brother of Holloway’s stepfather, told the AP.
Riehl World is reporting that “according to unconfirmed sources the search for Natalee Holloway may be leading to the Canashito Caves area south of Hooiberg, which is the only mountain on the island, off the beaten track and reported known for a set of caves. ”
Aruba Girl: Nothing found at Canashito.
Report Prime Minister is saying CNN is not right. PM confirms information is for sale. Local media obviously cannot match the big media bids.
Radio Station Online: ArubaDag
Aruba Girl
According to the prime minister the fam. didn’t know this until they turned on CNN. The radio stations are also reporting that cops are heading to recover the remains. First it was lighthouse, then it was Bubali Plas (shallow lake), now it’s Canashito, the rock quarry.
Aruba Girl
Police Commisionary Dompig denies that he confirmed the news. He said to the AP that he could not confirm the news.
He told the local radio station that he could not confirm the news.
Local Female
The Sir Dompifg of police, which is named by acosiated press has denied to other local medias that this is the case And is calling asociated press to retract his name
Something Bad has happenned
AP is correcting that they did not confess , just said something bad has happenned to her.
One of the teenage suspects confessed to killing Natalee Holloway and they are looking for the body now. One of the suspects is taking them to the body now.
Karl Penhaul is reporting
One of three young suspects arrested Thursday in the investigation into the disappearance of an Alabama teenager has confessed to her murder, a senior police official said late Friday.
The suspect has agreed to lead police to the body of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the police official said.
Police did not say which of the three teenagers confessed.
The three have been identified as brothers Satish Kalpoe, 18, and Depak Kalpoe, 21, and their friend, 17-year-old Joran Van Der Sloot, the son of a judge
AP: ORANJESTAD, Aruba – One of three young men who took an Alabama high school student to the beach during her class trip to Aruba confessed he killed her, police say. Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene of the crime.
Local Birmingham TV is reporting that the family is going to the lighthouse area to look for the body. Mai Martinez reporting live says that they were at the lighthouse but now are heading to police station nord.
ORANJESTAD, Aruba – One of three young men who took a missing Alabama honors student to the beach confessed that “something bad” happened to the 18-year-old American, police say.
1 AM : Aruba Girl in the comments is reporting that they are going to Canashito, a rock quarry. During the massive search (the one where the civil servants got off), they spotted suspcious activity by a white van in the area. The cops went to check it out, but found nothing.
An unidentified friend of Natalee Holloway signs a ‘wall of hope’ erected for the missing Alabama teen in Mountain Brook, Ala., on Friday, June 10, 2005. Holloway disappeared in Aruba on May 30 during a senior graduation trip to the Dutch Caribbean island. (AP Photo/Jay Reeves)
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Do you have a link?
It is not on CNN.com yet…it was broadcast on CNN news channel
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/10/missing.teen/index.html
I wonder why they are not saying which one confessed? I think we have a feeling which one but it is still odd…
thanks for the link…I wonder who confessed….
RIP Natalee
Why is this a news story?? Why don’t we cover all the kids in urban neighborhoods who go missing every single day? Why must we only give air time to the good looking chicks?
I don’t know about the rest of you – but the Van Der Sloot kid looks like trouble. His smile indicates he’s a little cocky and a little too sure of himself. This doesn’t surprise me – I knew she couldn’t have still been alive after all of this time. My prayers are with her family and friends.
I know who confessed – Van Der Sloot…..I just have the feelin….
RIP Natalee too
Prime Minister is clueless
Thanks Brenda
Why Arubagirl?>
I think it was Van Der Sloot as well.
My sympathy and prayers go out to Natalee’s parents, family and friends. I am so deeply sorry for your loss. May God bless you during this tragic time.
Tragedy, overhwelhming sadness. *tears*
He was caught by surprise at the CNN report
Oh, and I’m not so sure that he’s taking them to her body right now, scared monkeys. Just FYI
Kevin, are you serious? Do you not see why this is a “news story”? It’s an more than even just a news story…. it’s an international kidnapping, and now, murder, story.
On another note: I am very thankful for this website for bringing us this key breaking news. I am right here in Birmingham and this was the FIRST place to report the news… the local stations were about 15 minutes behind. Your site is an asset to it’s readers and you have certainly gained a loyal reader in me. Thank you.
RIP Natalee, my prayers are with her family.
Tragic ending and certainly prayers go to the family. I had a feeling these 3 guys were up to no good and their story never seemed to fit. I’m guessing the FBI had a lot to do with cracking the kid, as the Aruban Police looked pathetically lost.
Thanks, Tom.
My deepest sympathy to the Holloway family. I have a blonde 19 year old daughter, and I am a widow. The pain they are feeling hits close to home.
Jim. SHUT UP
JIM shut up !!!
Where were the chaperones??? Still nobody is saying anything about this matter
This is a tragic ending to the life of a young lady with a bright future ahead of her. God rest her soul and peace be with her family. RIP.
I can’t believe it’s true. I kept hoping it would turn out differently but i did have a bad feeling when i saw this guys picture.
Sorry arubagirl. You arrested two guys originally who it looks like had nothing to do with this murder at all. These guys had alibis and arguably nothing to do with the case. Their picture was plastered all over the place and their lives have been forever changed. Meanwhile, your police force is letting the 3 kids who last saw her alive go free, even though their story of dropping her off was clearly a lie.
Spot on police work from Aruba, it’s a good thing you guys don’t have to deal with too many murders.
why are yall telling jim to shut up he is absolutely right
Jim, you mean like they didn’t arrest Scott Peterson initially? I guess you know the island pretty well to pass such judgement on the cops.
maybe the 2 security guard helped dispose of her body? Jim what do You know huh?
I live on Aruba, and no offense but I have to say that Jim was right, the police here was completely useless. They kept 2 completely innocent men in jail way longer than neccesary without any evidence, and the REAL culprits got to go free…well basically that’s what Jim said but I really agree wholeheartedly and I apologize on behalf of…well, myself. I mean, you can’t blame a everybody for everything that happens in a country, but the police force…. I am really just… disgusted.
While I am sad to hear that Natalee may have been murdered, I still have to wonder who in the hell let’s their 18 year old daughter go on a trip to a foreign nation, especially in the time we are currently living in? Whether or not there were 7 chaperones, let’s be real. Those chaperones were out partying themselves and not keeping an eye on the kids the were charged to watch. If anything, those 7 adults who were chaperoning should be charged with involuntary manslaughter in Alabama. I feel for her family and friends and can’t even begin to imagine what they are going through, but she should have never been there in the first place. God bless you Natalee, may you now rest in peace.
Say a prayer for Natalee and her family. The time for argueing is later . but right now just be loving and caring. This is a tough one
Tom
Slice, I also live in Aruba, and while I didn’t think that there was hard evidence to keep the sec. guards locked up, that doesn’t mean that the cops had no idea what they were doing. I mean, if one of them confessed, they knew what they were doing, right? Wasn’t that the endgoal of their arrest?
Yeah, but unneccesarily keeping people who had nothing to do with it imprisoned longer than the actual culprits is pretty appalling. Especially when u think of how they get nothing in return for the crap they’ve been through. I’ve heard of stepping on toes, but this is ridiculous.
They didn’t arrest two completely innocent people in the Scott Pederson case who had nothing to do with it. Trust me, those 2 security guards will be released real soon.
You have to wonder if it was a frame job on those security guards until the FBI stepped in. The kid had a very wealthy and prestigous family in the country, and perhaps that is how things work over there.
Perhaps the Aruban police is real good, but this is a case that would have been open and shut in about 20 minutes in New York. This wasn’t rocket science. Three guys take drunk girl. Girl disappears. Hmmmm……
I’ll bet that they find her body right by the lighthouse, which will continue to show the ineptness of the police department.
Sorry for the comments, the whole case is just disgusting to me. I have a 17 year old daughter and this stuff hits close to home.
As for the security guards, if indeed it turns out that they had nothing to do with this, they should demand a public apology. I would say sue their asses, but not too sure that they’d be succesful.
you are right Tom, I’m praying for Natalee’s family…
They are reporting here in the states that the guy didn’t confess to the murder, but said that “something bad happened”. I guess the AP is pulling back the story that she was said to be murdered, although it looks very likely.
Here’s the thing. I know this sounds retarded but – the security guards were innocent. They knew they were innocent AND they knew that their innocence could be proven based on the security CAMERAS… so while it sucks for them and affects their lives greatly, they didnt get sent to jail for years for doing something wrong, or locked away for life. They had a few days, and they basically sat there and said “it wasnt us, we can prove it” and they proved it ~ which helps narrow down the suspects.
The thing is, b/c there were security tapes available from the Holiday Inn, it was probably known 3 days ago that the security guards were innocent, but b/c of the high profileness of the case they didnt want to say anything. There are a lot of factors that go into things like this. For example: clearly someone blamed the security guards in order to get the pressure off themselves. If that person thought they were in the clear, then they are more likely to slip up on their own defense or cover up, which is why – a LOT of the time – even when it is known that someone is innocent that information isnt released until it is absolutely necessary that it be released.
Just read on another site that from a reliable source that the person responsible is leading them to her body and that Joran is reported not to be in his cell.
Our local news is now saying they IDed massive amounts of her blood in the trunk of the guy’s car (DNA tested) and that the family was brought in earlier and left the police station visibly upset.
I would also like to say that it isn’t necessarily murder yet. “Something bad” could mean many different things. Perhaps she was given a drug that killed her, perhaps she fell off something, perhaps she went out for a swim and drowned. I know that isn’t likely, but you can’t assume that they physically murdered her yet.
Look at the post ,,, many updates ,,, this is very fluid
I feel so terrible for her family. This whole time I’ve been following the story hoping that she just ran away or got lost or whatever.
I just turned 18 years old. I just graduated from HS. And while I don’t personally know or have any connection what so ever to Natalee Holloway, I feel as though – had the circumstances been different, it could have been one of my friends, cousins, neighbors, sisters, or even myself. It’s strange how a story that has NOTHING to do with me (I live in MA) and has no connection to me what so ever could hit so close to home.
Natalee Holloway: Local Source – Joran Not In Cell
Amid reports that one of those arrested will lead police to the body tonight I have received a reliable report from a local source in Aruba that Joran Van der Sloot is not in his cell at this time.
While that does not confirm Joran Van der Sloot is the individual that confessed, the information was passed on in a manner suggesting it is quite possible that is why he is not currently in his cell. Developing
You’re all missing the point…she kids at 18 don’t need to go on trips out of the country. I know what I did when out of the country as a teen and I will never let my kids go on a trip, especially in today’s political climate and dissent for Americans.
People
it’s not even a fact yet police hasn’t said this is the case as yet
we don’t know where CNN got this information but they are not confirming this at the moment for no one
Not even the prime minister of the country is aware of this
if it was an accident, why didn’t they asked for help? it’s their fault, they killed natalee, Joran and his 2 friends…even if just one of them did it, the others KNEW!!!
May God bless her family and friends…it’s truly sad…
Prime Minister still doesn’t know anything. In fact, I’m not sure that the family knew.
Family heard it now trough the news on CNN
Local, welcome to the US media. They’ll know before the Prime Minister, trust me. They are as good as it gets.
It probably wasn’t an accident, I’m just saying that you never know how it went down.
Everybody at the office of detectives in aruba are denying there is something
It’s just said that the family didn’t know, to hear this on CNN. Jeez.
Are these the same detectives that arrested 2 innocent guys and have taken over a week to figure out a pretty simple case? I’ll take the medias word before them.
I’m pretty sure they didn’t kill her on purpose though….
Why do u say slice?
Right now the news hasen’t been confirmed to anybody they don’t know where CNN is getting that information
Also the family called the prime minister who talked on a local radio that family don’t want her to be fillemed to make it harder on them, is there request
There are some channels calling back the confesion
Cnn ain’t one of them
Didn’t kill her on purpose? Are you kidding?! They raped and killed the poor girl I’m sure.
slice, what do you know? were u there?
I mean, it’s pretty unlikely that they could have any reason to…
LocalFemale, every major news outlet in the US is reporting the story. I don’t see anyone retracting it.
DeadHead -
So basically you’re saying that “kids” shouldn’t be allowed out of the country b/c of what you did. For all you know she was FORCED into a car or dragged or drugged – which… just in case you were not aware, could happen anywhere. In fact, it happens here – in the United States about 10 times a day. Aruba was probably the safest place they could have gone… it has one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Have you seen the statistics, there was something like 2 murders in Aruba last year. 2… that’s a negligable amount in most other countries, specifically the US.
Also – if people don’t go out of the country when they’re young, then the likely hood of them going when they’re older is slim. I’ve been out of the country many times … I’m 18 years old. But I’m careful, and I do what I’m told – I don’t go wandering off on my own… but as careful as I am it would be completely possible for some big guy to carry me off. I’m 5’2″ 120lbs… basically any guy over the age of 15 would be able to drag me away, regardless of how hard I was fighting. Restricting people and not allowing teenagers to go out of the country is basically saying “be afraid of everything, don’t expand your horizons and be socially and culterally unaware”
AP is taking it back. Or was. Not sure now.
aruba doesn’t have a hand full of detectives so no
and they were just covering there baises
US is to talk they let scott peterson go
and other cases they still can’t find the peoples killer
and you want to judge us
AP is taking it back. Or was. Not sure now.
I mean come on, the way the article says they were kissing passionately, and what reason would they even have come up with in the short amount of time of knowing her to kill her?
When a girl goes missing for two weeks there usually isn’t a good ending. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family and friends, and to the chaparones who will feel overwhelming guilt the rest of their lives. People should also take this time to think about all the other evil that goes on in this world, all the other people missing or dead in every country…Of course this gets more spotlight, but take advantage of this to help with finding peace.
She probably was drunk and having a good time, but still had her senses. The guys wanted her to put out and she wouldn’t. It’s that simple. Most guys don’t know when NO means NO!
Oh great, let’s blame males!
Uhhhm… the US didn’t let Scott Peterson go. I’m preeeetty sure that he got sentenced to death… if not death, then definitely life in prison. Check your facts.
(However, they DID let OJ Simpson go – idiots)
I’m a guy dickhead, but most men are pigs and only think with their dick. Wait till you have a daughter…you’ll think differently!
They didn’t arrest him initially. The cops didn’t let O.J. go. The jury did.
well we can’t blame anyone to this point since here it hasen’t been confermid to any media any
we don’t know out of what thin air CNN got it from
i guess whatever sells
Dumb jury ::Sigh::
Scott was a good actor @ the begining. But as soon as he was charged he became so emotionless and like… just his demenor made it impossible to think that he could have been innocent. He never cried, or frowned… he never showed any emotion @ all.
Peterson got railroaded. There wasn’t enough evidence to convict him in court, he was convicted through the media. Get real. Scott Peterson should be walking free today because the prosecution failed to prove its case. He was tried in the public eye.
Well, they better be right about this one. This is not something you can play around with. Although I hope that they’re wrong.
Most men? Are you referring to the entire world’s population? So you’ve personally met each and every man in the world? That’s really cool.. and as far as having a daughter, no thanks, cuz apparently it’d make me generalize everything… dickhead.
Most men? Are you referring to the entire world’s population? So you’ve personally met each and every man in the world? That’s really cool.. and as far as having a daughter, no thanks, cuz apparently it’d make me generalize everything… dickhead.
thanks aruba girl they didn’t arrest him initially get your facsed right
For a while I thought Scott was innocent. Like you said – he was tried by the media and they couldn’t prove his case one way or another.
However, he was so unemotional and detached from everything that it was either that he was guilty and didn’t care what he had done, or had been through so much that he had no emotion left – although I doubt it’s the later.
deadhead Scott Peterson is where he belongs BEHIND bars FOR THE Rest of his damn life…
He was guilty and Justice was done to Laci and Conner….
Slice you must be local to Aruba huh?
NO SCOTT PETERSON TALK !!!
Maybe we can quit namecalling for a second and try and keep each other posted on the latest news.
Right right ~ no Scott talk. We’re here for Natalee right now.
:-\
Yes, since I’ve been born. How’d you know? Well even though I AM an Aruban, a lot of things happen here that shouldn’t, big and small… but that’s the case everywhere, I guess.
oooohhhhhh something bad just happened to Natlee… well thank god for that….
I thought the Arubains KILLED HER…… glade that cleared up………….
Look, three teenagers leave a bar with a naive young girl. She’s missing the next morning. They say they had consensual sex with her and dropped her off at her hotel an hour after they left the bar. But the beach they claim they went to is twenty minutes away and the security cameras at the hotel don’t show her coming back. They say some “dark skinned” security guards took her from them. And the Aruban police arrest two black security guards who weren’t even there that night?? Ten days later they arrest the three boys and my bet is, that it was the FBI who made Joran sing, not the Aruban police who were probably asking for tips on the best drinks at Carlos and Charlies.
This is such a tragedy any way you slice it, but the suffering of the parents has been extended way beyond what any parent should have to endure. And now their Natalee’s body is decomposed probably beyond recognition.
i just wanted to make a point since you blame our cops for not doing there job
to this point aruba is going out of there mind
because cnn and other press from US and the world seem to say that she is dead
because it hasn’t been confirmed
I will delete all Scott Peterson talk going forward. this is about Natalee
LocalFemale, our media is very good. I’m certain they have a good source within the FBI telling them this information. A lot of times the media picks up on stuff before the family even finds out. CNN isn’t a news source that just makes stuff up. They have very good connections.
Local Female
Without giving away too much , are you in a place watching all this or are you listening to the TV and or radio
Thanks
TOm
that’s the part it is not FBI juristiction they are not allowed to do anything without local autorities
Do you know something, K Mak and Fun in Aruba? Most Arubans don’t go around bashing the police force of a country that is not ours or that we don’t live in, so how about you do the same, okay?
PEOPLE IT”S Dutch ground NOT i repeat NOT AMERICAN SOIL
FBI No JURISTICTION
Reporter at the lighthouse now says she sees NO police cars, but “lots of media” at the lighthouse. No family members are their either at the moment.
America is the only country in which someone is Innocent until proven Guilty – fyi. They can arrest you for anything, and unless you can prove 100% that you are innocent they can hold you there for … I believe 160 days.
accectly so not because they are arrested means they are guilty
But Aruba got pressure to “let the FBI help” and last I heard there were THIRTEEN FBI agents in Aruba. I doubt they were working on their tans.
anybody watching msnbc?
My bet is the lighthouse was a story to throw the cops off. She is buried or hidden somewhere else.
I feel bad for Natalee, her parents, Mountain Brook and Aruba. All of these people/places will feel the affects of a foolish act.
till we know there only reporters at the light house not cops
cops said nothing is going on they are going home to sleep
We corrected that in the live report from the birmingham TV.. have npot had a chance to correct everything it is very fluid
That’s because she was an American Citizen. It was of American concern.
Had the FBI not become involved, people would be saying “why didnt they do anything, blah blah blah”.
It seems that they are going to Canashito, which is sort of a rock quarry. During the massive search (the one where the civil servants got off), they spotted suspcious activity by a white van in the area. The cops went to check it out, but found nothing.
Aruba is and should be glad they got the help, no doubt about that.
Courtney, trust me when I tell you this, I don’t think any american tourist that ever disappeard in the WHOLE Caribbean got this much attention.
So is there a confession or not?
ITA, Slice.
They’re is only one patrool cop at the light house to see what all the media is doing there nothing more
I was reading earlier about a girl that disappeared in 1997 or something in the Caribbean… and they never found her. And apparently people have seen her since she went missing, in like a brothel or something – but they are just coming out about it now b/c they didnt know who she was when she was saying like “I need help” b/c the case didn’t get much attention.
I believe I read it on… MSN… maybe? Or the CNN Arhives. Someone was interviewing the parents of the girl who went missing and relating it to Natalee’s case.
The reporters should be running over to Canoshita. They could probably find the body before the police.
I certainly hope the sercurity guards are sleeping in their own beds tonight.
Yes Courtney…Amy Bradley. The article is on msnbc
No confesion is confirmed as yet
Rest In Peice. Natalee…We all know where you are, and that is not in any feild,near any lighthouse or beach……YOU ARE in the hands of GOD and only he holds the key to your fufture. While many of us look upon this as a tragedy I am assured that you are in a far better place! This boy as well as all of those who so selfishly take the lives of others will pay for the things they have done……If the justice system doesnt handle I know someone who will…..And so do you natalee….You were brought to this world as and angel and now you leave as one….My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of such a beautifull girl , to young to die!!!!
Wait… I just realised something.. wtf? Something bad has happened to her? Is that the actual statement? Whaaaa?!
As one must guess by now, I agree with Deadhead. Those kids had no business going on the trip in the first place, especially with only seven chaperones who were so self-absorbed (another site has links to a pic of one of the chaperones funneling beer at a bar) that they did not know she was missing until the next day. There is a certain amount of blame in this situation that lies with the parents who allowed her to go, and with the chaperones who were obviously negligent in their duties. That may sound harsh, but it is true. How we all wish Mrs. Twitty had heeded her “bad vibe” before the trip, and kept Natalee at home . I can only imagine her pain, and I am praying for strength and comfort for her family. Parents need to stop thinking that it is cute for their kids to play “grown-up” in situations like this, and learn to “just say NO”. Natalee is safe in the arms of God now. May she rest in peace.
the security guard are still in custody
LOCAL FEMALE and ARUBAGIRL
THANK YOU!!!!
Tom and Red
Any word on if they will be getting out tonight?
Police Commisionary Dompig denies that he confirmed the news. He said to the AP that he could not confirm the news.
The Sir Dompifg of police, which is named by acosiated press
has denied to other local medias that this is the case
And is calling asociated press to retract his name
He told the local radio station that he could not confirm the news.
Local, why do you keep downplaying this story? I understand it doesn’t look good on Aruba, but you are just posting false information. The story is being run on every major news outlet in the states. CNN, Fox News, MSNBC. It is on every major new site in the country.
I doubt the police have gone to sleep, and I’m sure they are out looking for the body as we type. I understand your national pride, but let’s not let that have you make up stuff.
Hi all – reading this site all day & “lurking” – now I feel compelled to “speak” -
arubagirl is right that Natalee is getting LOADS of media attention – why?? Mountain Brook is an *extremely* wealthy area in Alabama (FYI: Courtney Cox was a “Brookie”)
Beautiful, wealthy, blonde, good scholar – no history of trouble – disappears *poof* while on her dream HS graduation trip? Media is on that like flies on honey….it is ideal fodder for their news hungry masses in this day of instant media gratification b/c of the internet, improved communications, etc. It’s truly sad – so many other stories get little or no attention and to their families they are just as important.
As an Alabama native AND a mother of a 2005 HS graduate (son) who just retruned safely from a trip – my heart goes out to Natalee’s family. May God bless and comfort them in the trying days to come.
There are cars and press mobilizing all around the island to spot cars of cops to see if there is something
But is doesn’t seem to bee the case
On local scanners of police frequencie there aren’t any abnormalities
oops, guess we were posting at the same time.
So far I can’t find any US news backing off of the story. Most are saying that he is leading them to the body now. I don’t know how true that is, but all are still reporting that either he confessed to murder or confessed “something bad happened”. I hope it is not true that the parents learned of this on the news!
2 missing woman
7 reported attacks on woman
10 near misses
12 woman druged in your country
5 sets of parents stating, they needed to
sit on top of they daughters the whole time
visiting Aruba…
And just three of your f-ing country men in jail…
How many woman didn’t report incidents in your most safe country….
You want to save your country… get off your ass and do something about
this problem….
Did anyone EVER consider that the picture of the chaparone funneling was photo-shopped? Or that Natalee snuck out, or was out past the curfew or something? You can not place it solely on the chaparones. I mean – she was a straight A student w/ a full ride to college… so what was she doing ALONE with 3 boys in a foreign country that she had never met before? Yes. The Chaparones were NOT doing a good job, but honestly – she was doing something wrong. Even if she wasnt drunk, and she didn’t sneak out, and she told someone where she was doing and they said it was ok – she should NOT have been alone by herself with three boys she had never met, in a place that she was completely unfamiliar with.
I have lived in the same town my entire life. Its one of the safest towns in the state of Massachusetts – we practically have a negative crime rate.. and you would never find me wandering around in the middle of the night on my own – EVER.
The blame has to be placed on a lot of people. Not just the Chaparones, not just her parents (although, they put their trust and the safety of their daughter in the hands of someone else, they were assured that she would be safe and sound – and this trip had run for 5 years previously with no incident… they had no reason to doubt she would be alright, adn even if her mother did have a “bad vibe” ~ if everyone heeded their bad vibes everyone would live their lives in their beds with their heads tucked under the covers)
I am not posting false information
the news that is running is from one media source copied by all
witch hassent been confirmed
2 missing women?
According to the prime minister the fam. didn’t know this until they turned on CNN. The radio stations are also reporting that cops are heading to recover the remains. First it was lighthouse, then it was Bubali Plas (shallow lake), now it’s Canashito, the rock quarry.
LocalFemale, can you please post links to your source. I see lots of links to stories that you say are false, but no links to your versions.
Local, don’t bother. Trust me.
Fun in Aruba What you talking about?
to fun in aruba:
What 2 missing women are you talking about?
I wonder if they did go to the lighthouse and maybe they went up to the top and in the process of her spurning his aggressive advances she fell.
I’m guessing that we’re listenining to the same radiostation. Let me know if you can understand Papiamento, and I’ll gladly link to the feed of the radio station.
I agree to a certain extent about parents having some blame…But, she was 18 and legally her parents could not have stopped her if they had tried, and yes i agree that there are so many stores like this one that doesnt recieve attention,and then again it was an” out of country” accurance and they seem to attract more attention.Lord i dont know if I could handle it if they aired all the killings and kidnappings like this one….it would take up all television time.
Just link to the feed. Thanks in advance.
Where is the Quarry, what town ,,, Red is asking we will try to put up the map
Tom
link pls:|
Bingo if you can understand it go ahead, but spanish nor spanglish ain’t papiamento
Also what station are you listening to
You can’t go to the top, unless you have a key or you broke in. WHich I THINK they would have noticed. Look now at everybody saying that the Aruban police are blind as well as stupid and imcompetent.
Hey, I would like the link pls?
im deeply sorry for the loss of this poor family and at the same time hoping that the girl is still living, something bad dosent necissarily mean shes passed so please join in praying for her safety maybe our prayers will make a diffrence
Top 95. http://www.top95fm.aw
Last time i check you want evidence ok there isn’t any evidence of fall play any evidence of kidnapping any evidence of murder or any evidence of suicide or any evidence of attempted murder, any evidence of accidental death any evidence of her running away
PEOPLE NO EVIDENCE
95.1
station link is on the top of the post. the station is papimento
T
this is a crazy world to many beautiful people are being hurt or killed…this must stop
I think Rickster was just stating a theory….not disparaging your police, arubagirl. I read earlier some unkind words but believe me that everyone isn’t that impolite or unkind over here in the US
:::::deep breath in::::::
I’m pretty sure that Local can explain it better, but if you find a map with the airport on it, it’s on the same level as the Airport, except more inland.
Natalee Holloway Update – reports out that Natalee is dead
New Details Emerge Surround Missing Teen In Aruba – she was “fondled intimately,” could this be a clue that she may have been forced and ….
Thanks Aruba Girl
Tom
PM says CNN isn’t right. Says that he won’t support CNN story. Still not saying that it isn’t true, but this is what PM is saying.
Ok Prime Minister said that there is an invastigation going on but that the case that someone has confessed is not the case at this time
They don’t know when or where US press got this information
What language is he speaking arubagirl? I can understand a teeny bit of it – only a teeny tiny bit…
my prayers with family and friends
This business of “something bad…”
So the mitigation begins; I certainly hope the coroner on Aruba has more brains than their police force or their legal system.
The “homers” from Aruba here should be upset with this system.
Remember what Amy’s parents stated: you get over here and something goes wrong and nothing is done.
No way you want to be on Aruba when something goes wrong!
Local Radio Station: They are in Canashito that persons of this country are looking for her at this time, not cops no cops at the sight
They are speaking Papiamento the native language
Thank you, LocalFemale
Radio feels bypassed, seems AP is going over Aruban heads ….
It’s so lovely to see all these experts on the island here.
She’s Been seen alive 3 to four days ago in San Nicolaas
Heh, very very VERY true, Leila.
Where is San Nicolaas in relation to where they are right now? Approx. how many miles away, for example… (or km…)
LOCAL!
Be very careful with that.
Mmphmm, about 19 miles, I think
Locals saying somethings happening i n Canashito
No they don’t feel bypassed but the fact that someone is stating something that is not true
I don’t know what to believe. CNN TV reporter in Aruba is reporting that there was a confession or statement of “something bad has happend”. They have updates every 10 minutes.
What time is it now in Aruba?
CNN still reporting that an official very high in Aruba is telling them that there is a confession and that he will lead them to the body.
Nothing found at Canashito.
Why would they look at 3 places??
Dompig (surinamer) , Van der Straten (Dutch) bringing down Aruba
There are alot of people there because someone said that they felt fibrations over there
which in my perspective it ain’t far fedged since it was known to be caves where indians use to live in ealy 1800
1:37 am.
map showing location of canashito
I understand that they may want to wait until daylight to search, but with all of the press and average citizens involved in this, they may want to get to wherever it is and secure the scene before someone else gets there first.
Police top calling Top 95.1, family dont want everybody on the road
Dompig said he didn’t admit to saying that these statements are true
Thanks Arubagirl….for some reason I thought there was a time difference…Aruba .. NJ
MWOOD Thanks for the map
it is posted up
Family was promised by PM discretion.
wait im confused, they said “something bad happened to her” does that mean, she’s deceased? or still they cant confirm?
You can acces all radiostations from Aruba on http://www.arubadag.com
Though even CNN and other US newsmedia brought it , officialy it is not confirmed by local authorithies in Aruba.
Arubagirl and others are just writing down what they hear on their local stations.
as far as information go
it is still believed she is alive
“something bad happened” was only reported because the PM wanted to give the family hope so that they could break the news to them. I hope when details come out Aruba amends their death penalty laws, if it wasn’t an accident as it seems it wasn’t. Some outlets are now saying the suspect specifically said he murdered her
We have time difference with US when you your time change.
Radio is calling off the dogs, but still between the lines showing that there is development
Obviously I don’t know my island… sorry for the wrong info on Canashito location.
At 10.30 already screams and tears fell at HI by NH family, CNN an Fox on site
Leila … that confused me…
Police is trying to keep away media, but the story is a goer
At 10.30 the mom started crying in Holiday Inn.
now there are a lot of things going around
some local people think that the information that ain’t confirmed by police officials are true, some don’t
Leila…where are u reading this info?
LISTENING ON THE RADIO
Ahhh. I understand. The way I read it, I was looking @ HI and NH as abbreviations for the states Hawaii and New Hampshire and I was sooooo confused. ::Sigh:: It’s late. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
now it’s a free for all on the radio for anyone to call in and say something
AP and CNN got higher clearance than ARuba PM
My thoughts go out to her family. I have been reading your thoughts and comments and many have said “letting” her go to a foreign country was a bad idea. I have to disagree that “letting” her go was an option. She was 18; a legal adult. It is truly sad that we instill in our children from the time they can talk not to go with strangers, what happens when they become older and that fear is gone?
My deepest sympathy.
What is the station number?
Tom
The radio station is so unbelievably pissed off.
(00297) 5855555
I was doing the same thing Courtney
PM confirms information is for sale. Local media obviously cannot match the big media bids
they are saying that some footage are being passed or reported on other channels that heven’t been rectify
some us channels say that her body has been found
which there is no info on that
Yeah, no kidding Leila. Heads are going to be put on the chopping block.
This incident will not only kill tourism in aruba, but cancel every school sanctioned trip to cancun, jamaica etc. What parent in their right mind that has a child graduating next year is going to let them head off to Cancun for a week of debauchery. Cancun just happens to have a carlos n charlies too.
Kathy, you are right. She was 18 and doing what many others in her class were doing. It’s so very sad, but I see no need to blame Aruba or their Law Enforcement. Look at the people that go missing in US everyday that we never find. I promise you, there are many.
The body will be recovered in the morning. Now is the time to start grieving. Not obfuscating with “something bad.” She’s dead and Joran Van der Sloot is responsible, whether it was murder or manslaughter remains to be seen but that guy should never see freedom again.
Natalee Holloway Dead?
I’m removing the details until something is confirmed. For some of the best non-MSM coverage, check out Scared Monkeys.
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I am so lost as to what is going on at this point
Donna, you’re not the only one.
Kathy, the parents “let” her go because I don’t know many high school seniors that have the 6,7,800 dollars to shell out for a week of gambling and drinking in aruba.
Donna we all are . it is very very fluid right now .. .
Why do you guys say it’s van der Sloot and not the other two guys? I’m just curious.
still not to fault the parents, she is 18 years old, gezeeeeee
I dont say it is either of the 3
arubian girl
where is the pet cemetary in relation to the search right now?
WELCOME BACK RED
do u guys have AIM ? coz i ill make a chat room. name is: NATALEE
Its good to be back, wild & wooly at yahoo
Jay –
For all you know, she had been saving up for this trip since her freshman year or something. Or she used her graduation money. Or the school did fundraising. Or they had been paying school dues towards it for 4 years. Or whatever. Her parents did not necessarily have to have paid for her to attend the trip. At my summer job as a camp counselor – between June 20 and September 20 I will make roughly $5,000. I got $2,000 for my 18th birthday, and my graduation party is right around the corner. $8000 is easy to get these days. Also – don’t forget, where she is from is a VERY wealthy area. AND she got a full ride of UAlabama. I’m sure her parents had a college fund set up for her, and when she got a full ride I’m sure they were more than willing to allow her to dip into it fot the trip…
When the story about Natalee going missing first came out CNN put out Aruba’s crime statistics listing it as one of the safest places in the WORLD. I’m sure that was one of the reasons the school chose to do a trip there.
is there a yahoo chat on this discussion
And you know it cost that much because…..how, Jay??
My 18 yo son (also a 2005 High School graduate from Alabama) just returned from an “all-inclusive” week in Cancun. With airfare and hotel it was only $1000.00.
I prepared him for this trip by telling him all of the things that could happen – with internet printouts from the US Dept of State and everything. He came home safely. I am grateful for that.
He called me on Wednesday and told me how much he appreciated my telling him all of those warnings especially in light of Natalee’s case. I thought he would have thought I was being overprotective – not the case.
probably looking at all posible sight again these are locals and news crues
looking at diffrent sites
They’re not saying anything about the Pet cemetary. At least not on the radio station
I am a teacher and kids have that plus some. I am sure her parents were aware of her going, however had they said no, she still could have gone without their permission. You would be quite surprised with the resources kids have now a days. They generally have more than I do in cash on any given day. I would love to put all three of my children in a buuble and keep them safe under my watch forever, however I hope I do my best to instill good decision making skills so they can keep themselves safe when they become an age when I no longer can do it.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NataleeHolloway/
Yahoo Chat Good people over there
Arubagirl: that makes sense how CNN got the first breaking news on this, then FoxNews…I think that was the pecking order when they broke the news about the first arrests, too.
I think it’s Joran because he was the one advertising himself as a partier on every site possible, he’s the one that befriended the group, he’s the one that almost got in a fight with one of the group that night, and admittedly has an “anger problem” and he’s the one they all (all three) maintain “got intimate” with her that night. I don’t know, it’s just a wild guess.
Well said, Kathy!!
I will admit that the impression that locals have is that this specific girl must be from from rich and/or powerful family, since the U.S. Pres. called the PM (PM said so). Also, the FBI reacted within 24 hours, which I don’t think they even do in the States.
NoDumb, count the zeros a little closer, there are only 2. 600,700,800 dollars, giving an estimate….
I’ve read your posts for days now and agree that this site has been a great source for up to date information. arubagirl… you have been a great source of info not only on this site but others as well, and I thank you.
I would like to say that crime is everywhere and aruba seems to have such a great reputation for being safe. I don’t think this will deter those that love your island from returning. I don’t think placing blame will change the outcome of this tragedy. I for one have been amazed at the people of aruba, joining together in the search for natalee.
we need to also remember that natalee’s family has had nothing but praises for the people of the island, and I think that speaks for itself.
I agree. I have been very impressed with the reaction of the people of Aruba.
Sorry Jay – I thought it had the extra zeros….
My bad! It’s late and my old eyes are crossing!
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Ok people going back these are all speculations that are not confirmed
And to this point No cop on this island is stating this is true
Besides other that this soposed confetion if this is true ant the case
there is no evidence to point to nothing
Nothing from running away trough kidnapping to death or murder
I have no issues with Natalee’s family. However, the people on the boards have been infuriatingly self-righteous about the cops here, while most of them have probably never been here for long periods of time.
Arubagirl, if it had been your daughter, would you have been happy with the way the police handled the case?
US are rectifying the news
Clarification: Not ALL the people have been posing as experts. It’s just the ones that have, are very annoying.
I personally don’t think anyone from the US should be self-righteous about the police from Aruba. As I stated before, we have many people here that have been missing for years and LE is no closer to finding them. We have many murders here that are no closer to being solved. We have had many very public cases that LE has messed up.
It seems on all the news shows that people are saying that you have to be very careful with women in Aruba. Lots of stories of very aggressive men and their tactics. In fact, there have been some news stories in the MSM about it.
Unfortunately, as safe as Aruba may be, or claim to be, this will kill tourism. Senior trips are big money to Aruba, and I can’t imagine any school or family sending their daughters to these islands. It’s not just Aruba that gets hurt, it’s all the islands and tropical locations that these kids frequent.
I can’t say I feel sorry for Aruba though. You let 17 year old kids in bars and casinos on a regular basis and you are asking for trouble. No sign of a bouncer or security at the bars to protect the young girls. And to top it off a complete joke of a police force that allowed the case to drag on for weeks and build up media attention. A good police force would have had this solved in 2 days and we wouldn’t be talking about this today.
Its all polical !! Aruban governement has been overrided by the police, police left 3 on the street for 11 days. They knew they did it from the beginneing
That’s USA TODAY, saying that no confession has happened. According to the radio station, that is, I haven’t been to the site
Empty big plastic bag found at Canashito.
they say there are new information, that she is alive, one reporter says that there are more people involved that just these 3 boys, and even think family may have something to do with this
this is a reporters info (or Opinion)
Everyone is looking for someone to blame. No one was this upset with the US police when it took over a year to find Lacy Peterson (not to bring that up, I’m just using it as an example).
When there is a crisis the blame needs to be placed on someone, and it’s easiest to blame the people who are supposed to be taking care of things, but we don’t know what they’re doing… all we have is speculation from news sources that apparently have no authorization to be saying anything anyway… so you can’t say the police weren’t doing anything – because you arent there and therefore you dont know.
Aruban police is governed by other elements
But I don’t if that means anything. And again, this is the local radio station.
With all this news coming out, I’m reminded of a post from earlier today, that this Joren Vanderslooth updated his personal site 3 days ago…How do you kill someone, or even if he didn’t interntionally kill someone, how can you be one of the three people in the world that knows what happened to this girl, and sit at home and update your personal site?
Local, the family had something to do with this? You are an idiot. You are just making your country look worse than it already does.
Yeah, like an incompetent Minister of Justice (hopefully nobody is MEP here)
USA TODAY has the AP story … linked to the ABC version above.
that’s why she said, REPORTER’s Opinion. Not saying that the reporter isn’t an idiot.
It wasnt Local’s opinion – it was something they were reporting that someone on the radio said.
I think the implication what that the suspect’s family may have been involved, not NH’s family.
No offence taken
What is MEP arubagirl?
Then I think you can turn off the radio down there. Seems their reporting is about as spot on as your police departments.
Jim
Lay off a little. please!
Thanks
Tom
Hey Jim
Well its opinion of a local reporter
and not mine yet i will have to say look at the case of the girl that went missing for 7 years had a fight with her mother and left without being heard from again after 7 years working at a sam’s
I could see the kids family being involved. They had political and financial clout in the country. No matter what part of the world you are in, money talks. Perhaps this is the “special circumstances” that were brought up by the FBI when they sent people down. Some corruption in the case to help cover for the prominent family.
MEP, Ruling party of Aruba, till next eleciont in sep this year
If you’re going to sit behind your computer screen and make snide remarks and be rude, then honestly – there is no reason to be here. Everyone is concerned, and wants an update on the information, and these people are being kind enough to report to us what is going on over the airwaves in Aruba.
Unless you have something with substance to add, give it a rest.
Thanks, guys.
Tbanks Aruba Girl..
Next time down we will take you and Local Girl out for a nice dinner..
Tom and Red
News going around on the island
Local media has contacted “live” on the air authorities, Prime Minister and other involved sources if the story, which again International media has published without the Aruba Media, Public even knows. Everyone with common sens knows that the first to find out are the local media. This left everyone on the island in shocked and therefor the local media started looking for confirmation which every top officials strongly denies. The Prime minister and Minister of Justice WHO ARE ALWAYS the first to receive any news said on the air ” Live” on the local media that the stories are not true and he has no information of any new developments.
Everyone denies that she is dead and that they are looking for her at this moment is not true.
The Ascioated press has started to change their news from found dead, or that they are looking for her remains to “bad things happening” or “bad things happened.
It’s 2 ‘o clock in the morning now and there will be no official statement until tomorrow. This is what’s going on now. Every top oficials on the island denies the story that has been published bij CNN and the AP.
Heh, I’ll take you up on it
Jim, FYI Police department has MISLED everybody
Where is the Biological Father?
Money talks, or again prestige and position
FBI doesn’t come here with 24 hours for just a missing person
Hasn’t happen before
http://hyscience.typepad.com/hyscience/2005/06/natalee_hollowa_2.html
Has this posted here, already? States that Van Der…isn’t in his cell and maybe leading the police to the site.
It will be fun!
Arubagirl, don’t go out with strangers …
I respectfully disagree with Gabriel, what I heard was that no one confirmed the story, or that no one was able to confirm the story. This is as far as police officials go.
Closing Radio!!!!
Leila, I’ll take local and gabriel along… they’ll protect me. Right guys?
Yup, radiostation signing off.
Broadcasting Radio has stopped,
Lets all stop the blaming game and give Aruba its opportunity to speak for itself. Afterwards, we can start pointing fingers and second guessing the Island’s response.
CNN is sticking strong to their story. I hope it isn’t true, but CNN doesn’t typically put up stories without a very good source. I’d have to say that they are the most careful of the mainstream media outlets in the states.
yup they’re closing the radio info at this time
as for aruba girl; doesn’t go with strangers we are friends as for one of us enter somens car with stranger we would either drag the one out of the car or hit whom ever they are going with to let her go
Friends don’t let friends go with stranger no matter what they say intoxicated or not
Local? Her bio father is from Mississippi and is supposedly down there. He was on the Early Show on CBS Friday morning.
Her stepdaddy is a manager for Phoenix Metals – a subsidiary of Reliance Steel who also own: Allegheny Steel Distributors, Inc., Aluminum and Stainless, Inc., American Metals Corporation, American Steel, L.L.C., AMI Metals, Inc., CCC Steel, Inc., Central Plains Steel Co., Chatham Steel Corporation, Durrett Sheppard Steel Co., Inc., Liebovich Bros., Inc., Lusk Metals, Pacific Metal Company, PDM Steel Service Centers, Inc., Precision Strip, Inc., RSAC Management Corp., Service Steel Aerospace Corp., Siskin Steel & Supply Company, Inc., Toma Metals, Inc., Valex Corp. and Viking Materials, Inc. This was taken from Reliance Steels SEC Annual Filing.
BIG company with BIG connections.
Make sense?
Yeah, well, Jim. I’m not saying it isn’t true for God’s sake. I don’t think CNN would mess around with something like this. I’m just trying to relay what’s going on here. Believe me, EVERYONE wants this thing to be solved.
Arubagirl – After all this, we are not strangers. .
THANK YOU, Bunny. Finally I get the connections.
I truly hope its not true, But there have been times CNN has been wrong. Being in the legal industry I can vouch for that.
Really, Red? In the States or here?
It is solved. U think its possible to dig up NH in broad daylight? ?? If u from here you know that everybody will be looking, it wil be one big show. Everybody on the island will go and look. They have to do it NOW
Is all the local media denying what was reported? The PM was mad but was that because the family did not know first or because the news was false?
While I do believe that money carries its weight, I remember HUGE coverage of Jessica Lunsford and her family is far from being well-off. Some stories just grip our hearts. This was one of them. And I think that FBI usually gets involved in abductions that cross state lines as far as in the US. This case was a case of a missing American and a very “America-friendly” country. I really do not believe this was all about social status.
From what I understand, the authorities arrested the two security guards in order to ‘distract’ the other boys. Now, there is always a chance that this is false info. but it was said that during this time the police/FBI were able to tap the boys phones, etc…in order to gain more information. It sounds to me that they know what they are doing in Aruba (even though it stinks for the arrested security guards)
Everyone wants to know if it’s true or not
local authorities say they haven’t said this
No problem aruba, and sorry if I offended you. I was trying to explain that our media is much different. They play dirty and will pay what it takes to bribe someone for a story. Families finding out about loved ones through the media is common here. Sometimes they move faster than the law enforcement can.
You’re quite welcome, dear.
YOU deserve an ovation for all you’ve done!!! :::::claps & cheers::::
Jim
Yep CNN is tight,, just ask Eason Jordon.
Oh, by the way, the caves at Canashito are pretty hard to reach. If they’re searching for these in the dark, it’s very dangerous. I think I’ve heard that you can only reach the caves by rapelling, but I may be wrong about this last part.
In Aruba, My family started bringing me to Aruba when I was 5. Lived and worked on Aruba for a while.
Hycyanscience say the following : Aruban Radio Report: Searching Canashito River For Natalee Holloway(via Riehl World View)
there is no canashito River
There isn’t any rivers in aruba
Jim
Your No probelm post to Aruba is DEAD ON THOUGH!
dragonfly: This is a heart gripping story, no doubt!!! It has had extra meaning for me – being from AL and having a child graduate from HS this year, too…..I am absolutely not saying that is doesn’t deserve the coverage.
I just was answering Local’s question about how/why the FBI or the President calling the PM may have happened.
Who is Eason Jordan?
Canashito RIVER?!?!!?!?! What in the HELL?!
LocalFemale
You have to read the home cookin above, we have had that up for a bit!
Tom (hugs)
Amy,
If that is the case, damn. Get arrested to flush the bad guys out. That’s tough.
Tom and Red, Kudos to you for giving us a forum to come together and discuss this awful tragedy like adults.
With all these reports being corrected that there was no confession but that something bad happened, is it at all possible that she was abducted while with these 3 guys and they have been afraid to say anything for fear of being suspected.
sorry this girl doesn’t like to read much
aruba nan a skibi na un site cu nan tawata busca den canashito river manera cu tin uno na aruba
CNN News chief who resigned in February over some controversy over reporting about the war in Iraq….
Local, maybe they mean the Rooi di Canashito? Does Canashito have a rooi? A ‘rooi’ is a dry streambed that is quite common on the island.
Oh, that was not directed at you NoDumbBunny. I’ve just seen and heard so many comments about the social status playing a factor. I think there were quite a few up above. Your post just reminded me of what I think every time I read something about money being the reason why this got so much coverage.
FOX news has been retracting this confession for an hour.
Red – I don’t think it was so much that they were arrested to flush them out, but they were probably held to flush them out. If the people who actually did it thought they were in the clear (or atleast someone else was being suspected) then they might let their guard down and slip up, you know?
sorry this girl doesn’t like to read much
aruba nan a skibi na un site cu nan tawata busca den canashito river manera cu tin uno na aruba
Fox news reporting on TV “No confession made in Natalee Holloways murder”
Abraham Jones will be released tomorow
One of the security guards is going to be released tomorrow morning.
Thanks for clarifying, dragonfly Appreciate it!
no the site said river, there aren’t any rivers in aruba
local
Hycyanscience indicates that their source is scared monkey. See the copy/paste from arubagirl and yourself.
Aruba Girl
According to the prime minister the fam. didn’t know this until they turned on CNN. The radio stations are also reporting that cops are heading to recover the remains. First it was lighthouse, then it was Bubali Plas (shallow lake), now it’s Canashito, the rock quarry.
Aruba Girl
Police Commisionary Dompig denies that he confirmed the news. He said to the AP that he could not confirm the news.
He told the local radio station that he could not confirm the news.
Local Female
The Sir Dompifg of police, which is named by acosiated press has denied to other local medias that this is the case And is calling associated press to retract his name.
Oh, how do you know this, frankdags, if you can reveal your info, of course.
Deputy Chief has retracted what he initially said that there was a confession according to Fox
Yeah, but do you see the word RIVER anywhere in there?
Reports of a search for a body is false as well according to FOX NEWS
I understand Dan Rather went to work for AP .
Fox News is reporting that one of the security guard will be released tomorrow morning.
My guess is that the forensic evidence from the cars came back today. They probably pressured the kid with the evidence, and possibly some other stuff they gathered, and he had no choice but to confess.
Fox News is doing a live report and here is the reporters opinion. It seems as though the story of a confession is true. The problem is that it was a leak, and the Aruban officials are very upset as it broke a promise to the family. They are now retracting it till things get sorted out. He reported the family was upset and taken to a police station, which means there is activity tonight. He also stated that there were signs of police activity at a location, but it was not confirmed.
I think we will have a body and confession tomorrow.
So it all start over………
no i think someone added to your statement at another site
there isn’t river anywhere
Arubagirl, have you heard anything from locals that you think may be true about the location of a body or crime scene, etc?
Wait a second…no confession, but now they’re going to let the security guards go? Sounds to me like Prime Minister wants to be able to tell the family he did not know the information was released, so he’s doing all he can to put the worms back in the can
From Fox News Channel.
Mae, you won’t believe the zillion theories that have been floating around. Everything from a hired hit to runway teen and all that could be in between.
nope till now they are still saying it ain’t true as far as i know
even police scanners are pretty silent
There is no Confesssion as of yet.
Yeah, sorry about that frankdags, don’t get fox channel at my house.
FOX NEWS SCROLL : NO CONFESSION MADE IN NATALEE HOLLOWAY MURDER!!!
Abraham Jones will be released tomorow !
Reports of a search for a body are false.
!!!Tom Opinion!!! Rumors of CNN annoying Aruban officials may be true. I wonder if CNN was set up on this? !!!Tom Opinion!!!!
well the stories of the boys are what got them arrested in the first place wich was pretty far fedged from a guy black in a black pants and black t-shirt with a radio in his hand
these security guars wear white uniform shirt and black pants
The thing about this is… it’s 2:45AM. Most people in the US are sleeping right now, and will never know about this confession, no confession, blah blah blah… and tomorrow people will wake up and either this will go away by then and they will go back to saying “We are still holding out hope” or they will be able to say they found her dead or alive…
I’m thinking that she’s dead, but a part of me doesn’t want to believe it. But if CNN broke it withought worrying about the fam. daaaaaaamn. That’s cold. I thought that usually dead people aren’t revealed until the families are contacted, etc. At least that’s what I hear about the Iraqi casualties.
Fox and CNN just confirmed. Confessions are true
Though we like to be informed, the media sucks! Even if they were correct, I personally don’t think the public needs to know about Natalee’s fate before her family does. No consideration! It’s not like we can help them search …………we can find out tomorrow! I feel for her family.
Tom, if that happened, I will laugh very loudly. I hope that’s what happened.
I think tricking CNN into putting up a story is the lowest thing anyone could do. Imagine all her friends, family, etc that would see that story.
Arubagirl, it’s not just CNN that is cold, they all do it. If the story brings ratings, they don’t care who it hurts. So you ask if CNN is cold enough to do something like that, yes.
It’s only 2:45 on the EAST coast. There are people awake in the rest of the country.
well we only see cnn
foxnews you need satilite dish
It’s not necessarily a bad thing not to get Fox News
… more info on the confession confirmed… anyone?
LOL Jim!!
Bottom line. From my experiences and working with prior investigators I trust that the Aruba police along with the FBI will figure out in a sensible way how to advise NH’S Family the truth. I don’t think by back-stabbing Aruba and everyone else in between is going to solve anything. Lets not forget, that this could be anyones daughter.
Good point
I am watching fox…..they have not confirmed that the confession story is true
I’m still not seeing any retraction from CNN and everything else I see quotes the whole “something bad happened” and still says LE are being led to a crime scene. Still sounds to me like CNN was right from the beginning. I wish that weren’t true, but it looks that way.
For the record, Fox news has stated that No Confession has been made. Therefore, Fox never recanted that a Confession was made.
CNN interrupted it’s scheduled programing 6 min ago to announce confession and FoxNews is running the marqee. No one is retracting the confession.
What is the punishment for murder in Aruba?
I don’t like fox news, but last night they were the only one to have a live feed going all night long from aruba. I find them to be most accurate on some stories…….unless it deals with politics. Then i find them way biased!
Depends on the crime. The most I’ve ever seen someone get was 20 years. For hiring someone to kill their sister
***New News*** ………everything reported prior can’t be confirmed, and the news still can’t get anything right. What can they come up with next? Nobody deserves what has happened. I feel for her parents & family.
i am not sure
something of 20 to life i think
That is because Fox News is 99.99% Republican.
Local, I’ve never heard anyone getting life here. I think Nazi murders and the like have gotten life. Of course, It’s 3 am, and my brain isn’t in its top condition.
Lethal injection in Texas
Fox is Not running the news that she is DEAD and that the kid confessed on the ticker……..cnn is and at 1:04 am fox did in fact come out and say that the info was to be retacted
He’s 17, so he might not even be tried as an adult. He could get a few years and that’s it. If anyone from Aruba has info on how they treat crimes by minors, it would informative. The reports in the US have said that their punishments are relaxed compared to ours.
CNN is the one that broke the story, and they haven’t budged. I’m guessing everyone is copying CNN and that people are just a little scared to fully admit it. I’m assuming CNN has a stong source and not backing down.
I also have another question. I know in the US you aren’t supposed to list minors names. Does this not take place in other countries, or is our media not required to abide by those restrictions out of the country?
But for this case, they’re going to throw the book at them.
I know that the Dutch Kingdom (=Aruba) has an extradition treaty with the U.S., but I’m fairly show that that only deals with crimes perpetrated on American soil.
Abogado lejue segunmi a bisa esey dra
Like CNN isn’t biased when it comes to politics. All media stations have some agenda and are going to report leaning to their bias. Look at CBS and Dan Rather.
Someone can only be extradited from the US to another country if the crime was committed in the US and they tried to flee – you’re correct.
“Abogado lejue segunmi a bisa esey dra”
WTF?
On the name issue, I think it was CNN that first ran the names, and the local media was once again pissed, because the cops wouldn’t release the names to them, and yet it was all over U.S. news. Usually we don’t get this much detail about the names. It’s usually initials or first name and last name initial.
They can’t be extradited to the US as the crime didn’t take place here. I’d agree they will throw the book at him (although his connections may get him out of trouble). And trust me, this kid doesn’t want to be extradited here.
The lawyer for one of the Sec. Guards said that 20 to life was max. Ch3
Top of the hour news on CNN still that one of the young men confessed. Absolutely no retraction by them.
In the US if you commit a felony murder and are 17 you will be tried as an adult. If the crime was committed against another minor or by mult. charges.
Yeah, he definitely doesn’t. I know that in some states (MA for example) you can be tried as an adult by the age of 16… scaaary stuff.
No! FOX isn’t reporting “NO” confession… that’s just a phrase that was on their screen, not the whole story:
FOX’s reporter in Aruba said that the Holloway family was taken to the police station late tonight and was in tears following. That the police higher-ups were locked down in meetings and that a confession was made.
He went on to say that others in the police dept and the PM are denying that a confession was made. For what it’s worth, as of this message, CNN is still sticking to the story….
FOX’s reporter theorizes that the confession was made and was reported to Natalee’s family, but that the government made a promise to the family to hold that information for a short time. It could also be a ploy to keep media away from the search for the body tonight or tomorrow.
It was also reported that Joran was not in his cell and that he was leading police to the body…
the cnn report is a replay, they keep showing the same thing they’ve shown
According to a call from a taxi driver to the station TOP FM from aruba the new is true..
The Taxi driver was present at the Holiday Hotel when the family was informed…
People good night i am signing off
Good luck
Hope she still alive
Jim, I’m very emphatically telling you that no one is getting of this. Not out of this specific crime. I’m not saying that corruption never happens on the island, but I’m telling you that in this specific case, they’re going to ask for the maximum, and the older two are going to get it. As for the minor, I have NO idea how they are going to deal with his case.
I think that all networks are biased….however, fox will talk about pres bush 24/7. it doesn’t matter what else is going on, bush iraq bush oil defending bush is fox’s main story. i’m shocked that they are talking about hurricanes….oh wait, no, they quickly related that to oil as well!!!
One more thing if he had internet conversations with NH yes he can be extradited to the US.
I doubt he did though. They met while she was there and I highly doubt she spent her time chatting online with people… or atleast, I wouldn’t.
On what grounds, frankdaq?
oooo, msnbc is about to interview vandersluts mom in a few minutes
There is a Highly regarded source that prior to the trip internet conversations were indeed held between some of the students prior to their arrival. Good night all.
I think the story that CNN broke was true. I agree that they probably did not expect it to hit so fast and furiously and expected the family would have time to get in contact with family and friends in US before TV and internet were flooded with the news. It’s the middle of the night. I think then they were trying to close the can of worms, but it was a little late for that. Maybe also protecting a crime scene. But, I do believe the information was correct. Someone messed up by informing CNN when they did, not giving the family time, or maybe CNN agreed to sit on it for a little while and didn’t.
The Internet conversations was not a crime, therefore extradition is not possible. It is where the crime took place.
Guys, I’m signing off, nursing a flu bug here. Hope that she’s alive, but I have little hope. It’s been a pleasure.
Before I came to work tonight, Fox News had a video(at 9:45PM DST) showing Joran’s mother in the lobby of the police station–Fox wasn’t sure whether she was there to see her son or a detective but something was happening. It must have something to do with the press releases later.
I’ve been to Aruba twice and going back in October–I love the island–always had a grat time with no problems–All the locals we encountered were very friendly and accommodating.
We,ve travelled all over the entire island–there are many places her body could have been placed.
What a shame–by the way–for those wondering about Natalee’s biol. father–I believe he a prestigeous person–knows Pres. Bush and if you look up Holloway on the internet–you will see the name goes way back in the prestige and money line.
Ps Us cannot ask for them to be extridited but Aruba can offer to send them there
being it a big media case. but Us cannot ask for that since it happend on Aruba grounds and not us
I am watching fox, i heard the reporter……i am stating what the ticker says. cnn is not live ,fox is…..that was my point and at one point fox said that aruban officials were retracting that story and sending” mixed signals”…..that happened before the live report. Do people get on this site to get info or to be right??? I came for info!
Good night Aruba Girl, get well.
MSNBC is the best station to be watching. they’re live and about to talk to van der sloots mother
thanks jay….watching
I wonder how many teenage tourist girls have been watching the news, see Jaron’s face and say, Holy crap! I fooled around with that guy!
I saw his face and said “holy crap I hope it wasnt him, he’s kind of cute”… but he has that look about him that makes him look REALLY scary and untrustworthy.
how many of them are alive to watch:)
I wonder how many guys have said that about the other two
Jessie – Yes, several government and police sources are ‘retracting’ but the FOX reporter and CNN still claim that it was stated earlier that a confession was made.
I think the backpedaling is not on the part of the person reporting the confession, but the govt either protecting the family or crime scene.
So a confession was made – and reported by AP and CNN and FOX – and some people are claiming it wasn’t..
Ok. I’m off to bed. I have to be @ the airport by 11:30 tomorrow… annnd I still have to pack (going to visit my boyfriends Family, no worries – no unchaparoned trips to Aruba) … so … I hope all goes well with the search, and I hope you all have a wonderful night and a good tomorrow and such.
awww, poor kid has a toothache
The interviews with the mother are not live on msnbc, but the latest news before the interview was that “some sort of confession” was made but no confirmation that she is dead as of yet and no search for body as of yet.
Hey Courtney, if you would see his picture and he wasn’t affiliated with a missing girl…do you still think he would look scary and trustworthy?
okay, rick, but only cnn is saying that she is dead and it sucks that her family had to hear that in such a manner. msnbc even says some sort of a confession was made and i am not argueing that……all i am saying is that it is not “confirmed” that she is dead and he confessed to murder.
There is a rumour going around that she did died from an overdose and was hastily buried…
However we have to wait in the forensics after the body is found…
This might be the best scenario for thes boys ,however if there were directly involved
in murder then they can be extridited to US via the Dutch.
In this case I the dead penalty will not be enough for all the damage that was done on Aruba reputation in the world.
Back… I’m such a loser. LOL
Actually, Nate – probably. Maybe it’s b/c he’s wearing a g-Unit shirt (blah), or the fact that he just doesnt look like the guys around here (I’m from a small town, the epidemy of upper middle class america) and I just feel like he’s very… shady.
Where’d you hear the rumor?
I have been reading the comments and some people want to know what’s the law here
This is the law:
One who takes the life of a human beeing gets a max of 15 years (in Dutch law terms this is called doodslag). In this situation his intention were to murder but was not planning to do so.
Murder (“Moord”) Gets 20 years to life in jail. This is called premeditated murder. The premeditation has to be proven that before he is judged on these term. e.g. one has been planning for days to murder someone. Was following the victim, bought weapons, had and escape plan etc.
One who is murdered as a result of abuse e.g. was in fight and the attacker atacked the victim until he or she passed away gets a max of 12 years (“Levensberoving op verzoek”)
Those who were involved in the acts get a punishment somewhere from 3 years up to 12 years depending on the role the had with the acts.
A minor gets a low jail sentence but can be tried as an adult if there is enough proof of such.
Aruba is a part of the Ducth Kindom and therefor has the same Law as the Netherlands on Criminal grounds. This counts for Aruba, the Netherlands Antilles and The Netherlands.
On another note: Nothing is confirmed, there are so many rumors, international media is changing their stories and the local media says that nothing is confirmed and authorities deny giving such info to the international press.
I am confidend that tomorrow this entire case wil come to and end. so until than. Everyone hold on.
If she died of an overdose and they buried her they’re still screwed. They probably didn’t want to get caught for like drug trafficking or whatever, but not they could get charged with that, with holding information, giving false information/evidence and possibly murder, or like- man1 or something.
it is not far fetched that a “good girl” got away from her rich parents and squeaky clean image on an island and od’ed………i wouldn’t be shocked. Anything is easier to handle than murder. our family has been there.
I think arubian person is right on. I think they fed her drugs, either knowingly or unknowingly, which her body wasn’t used to at all, mixed with the alcohol, and that killed her.
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