Hurricane Felix Takes Aim at Aruba … One Happy Island Supposedly Out of the Hurricane Belt, Not Any More

 

Hurricane Felix is gathering strength in the Caribbean. Hurricane Felix has become a category two hurricane and is taking direct aim at Aruba. Aruba, the Caribbean island that is touted as being out of the hurricane belt can no longer state that claim.

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Tropical Storm Felix (Hurricane) Strengthens in Caribbean … I thought Aruba Did not Experience Bad Weather on “One Happy Island”

UPDATE I: From the Aruban Forums

  • Reports of floods are coming in from the village of Catashi and Seroe Patrishi.
  • Haystack Hill and Aruba’s tallest hill Arikok are not visible from a distance.
  • Unconfirmed reports of downed palm trees at westpunt near Malmok.
  • A few downed kwihi and divi trees reported on streets.
  • Visibility poor riding on Sasaki highway near Palm Beach/Eagle Beach.
  • Surf is battering Tamarijn hotel entering ground level hotel rooms, according to radio report.
  • Power outage reported in Palm Beach, Tarabana and Alto Vista.
    Some hotels may have generators.
  • Very strong wind gusts all over the island.
  • Bubali sanctuary spilling over, too much water.

UPDATE II: Hurricane Felix now a category 3

UPDATE III: VIDEO, Flooding in Aruba

UPDATE IV: Felix Becomes Category 5 Hurricane

ORANJESTAD, Aruba – Felix rapidly strengthened into a dangerous Category 5 hurricane and churned through the Caribbean Sea on a path toward Central America, where forecasters said it could make landfall as a “potentially catastrophic” storm.

On Sunday, Felix toppled trees and flooded some homes on the Dutch islands of Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire in the southern Caribbean. Heavy rains and winds caused scattered power outages and forced thousands of tourists to take refuge in hotels, but residents expressed relief it did far less damage than feared as the storm’s outer bands grazed the tiny islands.

UPDATE V: Category 5 Hurricane Felix slams ashore at Nicaragua-Honduras border

Posted September 2, 2007 by
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    107 Responses to “Hurricane Felix Takes Aim at Aruba … One Happy Island Supposedly Out of the Hurricane Belt, Not Any More”

    1. Sue on September 2nd, 2007 1:59 pm

      I really think Aruba will start seeing alot more
      of this happening in years to come..
      I think years of dodging bullits has ended

    2. Melissa on September 2nd, 2007 2:15 pm

      One of the dangers with the flooding in Aruba is that there is not a sewer system in Aruba. All of the houses have septic tanks so the flood waters are partially septic waters and very dangerous.

      I remember after all the flooding and accumulated waters after Lenny – I was so concerned for my health walking through this water – driving was not an option.

      I do wish the people of Aruba a safe outcome. If I didn’t, I would be no different than those individuals who, I believe, took dear Natalee’s life. I don’t have that kind of hate in my heart.

    3. Susan on September 2nd, 2007 2:27 pm

      Felix’s path is unpredictable according to NASA. Guess that means he could go one way or another. Felix was 60 miles northeast of Aruba, but is now 50 miles north of the poverty stricken, drug infested, third world isle. Hum, apparently Felix is zooming in…

    4. ldstlou on September 2nd, 2007 3:23 pm

      I was thinking the same thing Melissa. I would not wish a hurricane on anyone!! What really scares me for these people is that they probably have no good emergency system in place for a hurricane not it’s after effects. Government too busy lining their own pockets to worry about safety, for tourists or locals. I will say my prayers for these people.

    5. Lynn on September 2nd, 2007 3:39 pm

      Aruba and its’ people are in my prayers!

    6. Jason on September 2nd, 2007 4:03 pm

      #5

      It looks like your prayers were answered. The Good Lord wrapped His Loving Arms around Aruba and spared them.

    7. SSE on September 2nd, 2007 4:04 pm

      Thanks for the prayers. Spoke to my parents that live in Aruba and all is well. She even went to the pick up some lunch at a restaurant, so it looks like life goes on. There is some flooding, but it’s in the usual areas that always flood when it rains.

      #3 By the way I’m not sure where some of you got the information that Aruba is a third world country. Do you realize their literacy rate and poverty rates are about the same as the uSA’s.
      Everyone there speaks 4 langauges fluently.
      I realize people are still angry about the Natalie Holloway situation, and I don’t condone what happened, but the whole island does not deserve this treatment. Please do your homework or read creadible sources before spewing out all this incorrrect hatered.

    8. Anise on September 2nd, 2007 4:10 pm

      #3 Do you realize that in addition to Tourism Aruba also has an oil refinary and a triving Aloe business (probably in suntan lotions you used this summer)

      There are tourists that visit the island year long since they are able to communicate with almost everyone. So americans are not the only Tourist visit the island.
      Everyone speaks English, Spanish, Dutch and Papiamento this lots of South Americans and European visitors also.

      Aruba is still part of the netherlands so if for some reason they need aid they will receive from them.

    9. Smish on September 2nd, 2007 5:09 pm

      For #8:

      I read that the US Valero Oil co. is pulling out of aruba.
      Also,looks like your government is in the habit of borrowing monies from the NL and not paying it back….looks like your government is filled with 3rd world,money grubbing losers for leaders.I feel real sorry for the people of aruba.

    10. Anise on September 2nd, 2007 5:38 pm

      No need to feel sorry for us we are doing just fine. Have you ever been there? I have Lived in 6 states in the Us and Aruba so feel a little more qualifies to comment.
      You shouldn’t believe everything you read.

    11. Maggie on September 2nd, 2007 5:54 pm

      Been watching some of this on the weather channel. They’ve been having pictures from someone named Marck Oduber.. and a 9 year old Julian who lives by the beach ..I was doing ok watching until I saw the name Oduber..

      I don’t wish a hurricane on people either. My daughter was in college in Pensacola when Ivan hit Pensacola.. They were in lockdown in a building with no electric and dark of night. Was very frightning to all of them.

      However it doesn’t change my opinion about the suspects and families ..the ale who was on the case at the first, the paid liars sent out to smear Natalee and her family, the group who goes out to protest a mother looking for her child. People who put money over justice and continually defend people who have lied and lied. Where’s the compassion for a paying tourist who lost her life from others who seek compassion when faced with tragedy? It’s not a one way street.

      I’m still having trouble with people telling someone I know while in Aruba..Natalee died of alcohol poisoning and fell in the water and washed away.. What a lovely cop-out.

    12. Esther on September 2nd, 2007 6:15 pm

      Thanks to you all that prayed for Aruba!! Indeed everthing is fine down there,talked to my parents and they are ok!!
      I also want to know what happend to Natalee and so are alot of Arubans!! Justice will come soon…
      God bless you and my island of Aruba…

      Esther

    13. Carpe Noctem on September 2nd, 2007 6:22 pm

      Felix tagged Aruba?

      Such a pity. — Paulus Vandersloot 2005

      ……..

      I don’t know why this stood out to me last night,
      but it did.

      So I figured, I’d clip it and drop it.

      ……..

      Dutch Boy’s Father Filing Suit to See Son
      AP ^ | June 15, 2005 | Peter Prengaman

      -SNIP-

      The latest search came after a former hotel security guard who was released from custody Monday told reporters that he spoke with one of the Surinamese brothers who was detained in an adjacent jail cell.

      Antonius “Mickey” John said 21-year-old Deepak Kalpoe told him that he, his younger brother and their Dutch friend lied about returning Holloway to her Holiday Inn hotel.

      Instead, Kalpoe said, they dropped the Dutch youth and Holloway off near the Marriott, about 10 blocks north of the Holiday Inn, John said.

      *************Kalpoe also allegedly told John that about an *****hour****** after dropping the couple off he received a cell phone text message from the Dutch teen, saying he would e-mail Kalpoe as soon as he got home. Kalpoe said he never received the promised message, John said.

      -SNIP-

      -j4n

    14. brie on September 2nd, 2007 6:50 pm

      Aruba has become a money pit for the Netherlands….so much is owed to them. Life in Aruba was good at one time…but everything there is changing…Chavetz sees you as money in his pocket for various reasons and most likely will take over control of the island.

      The Netherlands might be better off unloading all the problems they have currently and with only more to come. So your habitants will be neighbors and visitors from South America, Mexico, China, the true Aruban’s will make up the smallest population of all and will have the littlelestlittest tohe

    15. brie on September 2nd, 2007 7:09 pm

      ….didn’t finish my post…, the Aruban’s will make up the smallest population of all will have the littlest to say about anything….

      As far as Natalee is concerned, there is only one person that I know of, that has come on here from Aruba and posted how she felt as to what happened to Natalee and didn’t support what the gov’t and the ale had done to cover-up…..some people from Aruba say they’re sorry but that’s all…your there…we’re here…how come you never do anything to help….

    16. arubagirl on September 2nd, 2007 7:12 pm

      Thank you for your prayers. Indeed, some flooding in the usual areas, nothing major as I’ve been told.

      I would ask who in the world would drive on Sasaki, but I knew it would totally be me if I were there.

      #7&8, very nicely said. But, uhm, good luck with that here.

    17. brie on September 2nd, 2007 7:25 pm

      Why don’t the Aruban’s do something about the Sloot’s….can anyone in Aruba answer that queston? We would truly like to know, our battle isn’t with the decent folks of Aruba and it never has been…the publicity because of the obvious corruption and cover-up wasn’t done by American’s…your own people did that to you…..and the infamous Joran brought it all about….!!!!!

    18. Jason on September 2nd, 2007 7:27 pm

      Brie
      Since You’re here, name all the missing people in the US and the specifics of each of the cases. Name all the government corruption on the local, state and federal level that is plaguing our country.

      Now what have you personally done about any of it?

    19. Miss-Underestimated on September 2nd, 2007 7:27 pm

      A real simple campaign came to mind.

      Run off three picture of Natalee with the words, “We will never forget or allow anyone else too: Justice for Natalee Ann Holloway.”

      Mail to the the ATA, KLDP and Senator Bachus (sp)

      No need for letters, just real simple, three envelopes, three stamps, three pictures, easy.

    20. brie on September 2nd, 2007 7:28 pm

      “Just a note to anyone that wants to smear an American”…don’t rub salt into the wound….!!!!

    21. SSE on September 2nd, 2007 7:30 pm

      Thank you aruba girl. After having read the rantings of Brie (#14/15) I notice that we need to just keep our heads up high and ignore what people that have never been to the island and people who believe all the internet garbage have to say here.

    22. LilPuma on September 2nd, 2007 7:40 pm

      I’m glad Felix didn’t do serious damage to Aruba. I do wish the high winds would blow Hugo hopelessly out to sea and Joran out to see some sharks.

      As for the Third World Country remarks, I never thought that Arubans weren’t educated. It does seem to me that it’s government operates like a third world country.

    23. Maggie on September 2nd, 2007 8:41 pm

      First of all, it’s totally ridiculus to compare statistics of a country the size of the U.S and one the size of Aruba. Does it make someone feel better to try to downplay what happen to Natalee by bringing up other crimes? Never have understood that analysis.. No matter what the statistics of who’s missing where and what the circumstances are, Natalee Holloway was a victim of a crime in May of 2005 in Aruba while in the Company of J2K. I can’t understand why someone comes on and tries to deny a victim and a family justice by talking about the price of beans in China?? Does it make one feel better??

    24. brie on September 2nd, 2007 8:47 pm

      I think the original people of Aruba did many things to make their island desirable for tourists, that was their livelihood, I found them to be exceptionally, friendly, kind, courteous, fun, caring….this was many years ago…but I stopped there as a port-of call…went to the beach, got a really bad back burn…blue as I recall…the cab driver taking us back to the ship, stopped and picked some aloe for me, the next day I wasn’t blue anymore…and appreciated his kindness and consideration….that was how I remember Aruba in the past.. caring…but after Natalee and what has happened…where are all the nice people….!!! I guess some of you are still there, but have become victims as well…Maybe in the highlight of this all, you have also found out what your leaders are all about….!!!!

    25. brie on September 2nd, 2007 9:15 pm

      ..SSE…an attitude adjustment on your part certainly wouldn’t hurt…I posted the truth….!!!!
      You’re mean…why don’t you direct your anger towards your gov’t and your ale…your fighting the wrong people…why don’t you spend your energy on the Sloot’s, who caused all this chaos in the first place…he never returned Natalee to the hotel…and she was in his care….your tourist, our American…and we can’t help it if your a candidate for Chavetz….but what can expected by a Joran supporter…….!!!

    26. Sunny on September 2nd, 2007 9:41 pm

      I am glad Aruba was not hit by the hurricane…I have seen the devastation a hurricane can cause and would wish this on no country…on no people…

      Arubagirl…as to your remark….below….since SM is so bad why would you waste your time to come over here an post? And make a slur like this….not everyone who posts here is a member of SM….for the most part, AS YOU WELL KNOW..we are good people who only want justice for a young woman who could have been our daughter, sister, cousin, niece etc..and the powers to be and some PEOPLE of aruba have not only done nothing to bring justice to her….but have covered up and protected those that harmed her….you are smart enuf to KNOW that when someone talks about aruba being this or that…we ARE NOT talking about a country and all it’s people…but of SOME people in that country…you have maligned SM and Natalee and Beth with your prejuducial and nasty statements and you should really be ashamed of yourself….you are certainly a disappointment to your country if your present yourself as a REAL ARUBAN

      ARUBAGIRL SAID: #7&8, very nicely said. But, uhm, good luck with that here.

    27. brie on September 2nd, 2007 9:55 pm

      Joran, who Dave said controlled the island, at that time a 17 yr old…who made it that way…who allowed his behavior…Paulus…who would not approach Paulus…he has a line of dirty work a mile or more long…let’s cover-up, or we’re all exposed…we want you Joran….and we’ll get you and I think you know that will happen….!!!!

    28. Carpe Noctem on September 2nd, 2007 10:07 pm

      Jason there really hasn’t been any cases
      where the murderer confessed and the Chief of
      Police reported it to Associated Press, and
      then recanted.

      That kind of crap happens only on
      the God awful island of Aruba!
      Deal with it
      buddy.

      -j4n

    29. disgustedmom on September 2nd, 2007 10:27 pm

      #25, brie…well said! I too do not understand why people come on here to take up for Aruba as if nothing happened to Natalee when they could use that energy to help solve the case instead of just defending Aruba willy nilly.

    30. Carpe Noctem on September 2nd, 2007 10:27 pm

      Actually, I agree with Arubans on one thing!

      I think 99.9 percent of the population
      having to suffer the heat for what that
      psychotic Aruban gang-raping innocent teenage
      girl murderer

      Joran Vandersloot did….

      …THAT REALLY BITES A FAT ONE.

      If we can’t at least get him put in jail…

      I really hope someone perhaps could drop
      a bomb on the Vandersloot house. LOL

      While they are at it. Here are some more homes
      that could use one or two!!!!

      Jan Vanderstraaten’s new pad in Curacao! After
      all, he paved the way for this to take place
      and then quit his post!!!

      WHAT A SNIVELING COWARD.

      The raping murdering Kalpoes, who are just
      as filthy as Joran Vandersloot for not telling
      what Deepak did, and what he and Satish, aka
      camera boy, KNOW HAPPENED.

      Also, here is one that gets often overlooked…

      Steve Croes, who was paid to dispose of Natalee’s
      body by TATTOO WATER FERRY in the early morning
      hours of MAY 30th, 2005! Steve was arrested for
      a great reason, and when he squealed
      they arrested that sorry sack of a$$,
      Paulus Vandersloot.

      As far as I am concerned,

      I hope all those TIAPB’s

      get some United States

      funded heavy metal dropped

      right up their squatty Underoos!

      If they could do it by Monday,
      it would have been 2 years too
      late. LOL Sheesh…

      Aruba really
      took one up the ol’ laundry
      hopper for that murdering raping
      Vandersloot carnivore, Joran! If they
      only knew what the Vandersloot’s
      were suckering them into…
      someone would have certainly
      shhhhhrieked

      “DO OVER!”

      -j4n

    31. brie on September 2nd, 2007 10:31 pm

      Joran is the enemy of your island….why don’t you do something about it….!!!

    32. Carpe Noctem on September 2nd, 2007 10:34 pm

      They should be hunted and haunted for how they

      violated her until their last days

      on Earth.

      THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY *NO RIGHT* TO VIOLATE HER

      IN AS MANY WAYS AS

      > THEY WERE *ALLOWED*

      TO.

      Never ever give up on Natalee!

      http://tinyurl.com/2y6wkh

    33. SSE on September 2nd, 2007 11:05 pm

      Brie,
      For your information I live in the USA and have lived here in 6 states plus in Aruba and am able to read and see different news and we do get different stories here in the USa( try watching BBC for once and i also read Dutch newspapers and the Aruba newspaper on line) and that is what I was referring to that you should not believe everything you read, especially not on the internet. Have you ever been to Aruba? Do you know what the people there are like?

      I have been on a few blogs this weekend since my parents live in Aruba and I was concerned about them and I was disgusted by some of the posts, by what some people wished Felix would do to Aruba and about people calling it a third world country without ever having stepped foot there. Now that is what I call mean I simply stated the fact that you should make sure your sources are correct before you spew out that stuff here.
      At no point did I say I condoned what happened to Natalee I think we should just look in our own backyard before we complain about others.

    34. Compananzi on September 2nd, 2007 11:18 pm

      The impression I got was that JvdS was born in Holland. And is now living and studying in Holland. If the notion of ” oh Arubans you got to do something or bring justice to Natalee, should not the Hollanders do so too? And the notion of doing something instead of wasting time on the on the Board, have you not perhaps the notion some elements want to counter balance your skewed view of Aruba? ask not what Aruba can do for your country but ask what you ought to do yourself? Laws and procedures are as is, if you want to break it say so, if you disagree, file an appeal.

    35. SSE on September 2nd, 2007 11:18 pm

      Disguted mom,
      i will come here and defend Aruba because I know you would defend the Usa if people were bathmouthing your country because of the Oj Simpson ordeal as if everyone in your country were to blame for him being aquited or if they called the police incompetent because they couldn’t solve the Jean bennet murder. ( I know I defend the USA every time I’m in another country and an untruth is told)

      We need to stop generelizing here. Most of Arubans have nothing to do with what happened to Natalee and they don’t condone it, but they do get defensive if you blame everyone for the actions of a few.

      Brie, as you said a few years ago a taxi driver stopped to get you aloe on the way back to your ship. That is what still happens in Aruba. Can you picture a taxidriver in Manhattan stopping to get you something like that? Kind acts like that happen on a daily basis in Aruba!!!
      My parents still live there and my dad gave a tour of the island to a couple just because they were nice to my kids on the plane.

    36. brie on September 3rd, 2007 12:48 am

      #35…then why are you not defensive of the actions of a few…as far as Manhattan…I said something nice and it was a true experience but why not take it for what it was worth…..you found a need to destroy…

    37. Ray Wood on September 3rd, 2007 1:51 am

      well,it looks like Felix did not get the job done,maybe Hugo’s aim will be lot better.

    38. SSE on September 3rd, 2007 2:04 am

      How did I destroy it, I was just making the point that there are lots of good people in Aruba. Your point somehow was that somehow because of the Natalee situation the Aruban people have changed and are incapable of such kindness anymore.

      Your exact words were: “I found them to be exceptionally, friendly, kind, courteous, fun, caring…” but than you seem to insinuate that this is no longer the case.
      I would expect someone who experienced the kindness firsthand to be a little more understanding.
      The bottom line is that there is good and bad in every country and I am appalled that the whole country is being blamed for what a few might or might not have done.

    39. SSE on September 3rd, 2007 2:10 am

      Brie and Disgusted mom,
      See comment #37. This is what I was talking about. What would you say if that comment was made referring to the USA. Wouldn’t you defend the US?

      I feel aweful about the Natalee Holloway situation as i mentioned before but that doesn’t mean I have to sit back and let people spew that garbage about the huricane wiping the island away.

    40. brie on September 3rd, 2007 3:27 am

      …sse..if you truly feel aweful about Natalee, then let us hear what you have to say about how the whole case was handled…and why..! Where’s your defense on supporting the USA, Natalee’s family and friends…I’d like to see an article expressing the sincere desire from the Aruban’s to want justice served…..and to say. what a few might or might not have done….that’s a pussy statement…SO FORGET IT…last time I’ll ever say anything nice….YOU DESERVE WHAT’S COMING!!!!

    41. mayan_moons on September 3rd, 2007 4:14 am

      Alot of people are suffering and damaged by what

      Jurine, Paul, & the Kalpuke’s did on May 30, 2005.

      Aruban’s should’ve realized they would be included

      in the casualties.

    42. Vicki on September 3rd, 2007 6:43 am

      #39- I wouldnt care what you said about the US…no place is PERFECT…get it…but have u ever seen an ad that says come to the US were PERFECT?..nooooooo Youre police knew what was happening to AMERICAN TOURISTS, there were many ppl who knew..This has been going on for over a YEAR before NATALEE…and ppl turned a blind eye…ITS DISGUSTING…how can you allow anyone to DRUG and RAPE A FEMALE who is on your ISLAND as a PAYING GUEST…There was talk of this way back I see from reaing the internet. The AVERAGE ARUBAN knew this…Heck, ANITA knew what her son was doing!!!!! The only problem was NOONE HAD DIED BEFORE…GIVE me a freakin break. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE and solve this. STOP your whinning and HELP…..

    43. sharon on September 3rd, 2007 7:33 am

      #33
      “At no point did I say I condoned what happened to Natalee I think we should just look in our own backyard before we complain about others.”

      Thank you for your support of the Aruba Boycott.

      If Natalee had not gone to Aruba — and had stayed in her own backyard as you suggest — we would not be discussing this.

      Avoid Aruba
      Justice for Natalee Holloway

    44. Dusty on September 3rd, 2007 8:33 am

      Number 5 I hate Aruba and Aruba can burn in hell.

    45. LilPuma on September 3rd, 2007 9:40 am

      #35 SSE. I find it interesting that so many in Aruba compare Natalee’s disappearance with OJ Simpson. I take it to mean that you know that Joran is guilty, like OJ, but he got away with it.

      #39 SSE. Hugo Chavez, a close friend of your island, would like to wipe America away, with or without a hurricane. Americans listen to criticism and hatred spewed at us every day from every corner of the globe. For Arubans, it’s new as you told the world you were One Happy Island. The difference is that we look at our country, criticize it ourselves, and people like many here at SM try to do something to change what’s wrong. Our media does not work for the government, they expose corruption and incompetence. If this tragedy had taken place in the U.S. and the obvious coverup by officials and criminals was exposed by the media, we would be fighting those officials and criminals, not the media who expose them or the parents of the missing person.

    46. Susan on September 3rd, 2007 9:50 am

      SSE and Anise – My describing Aruba as a poverty stricken, drug infested, third world isle is putting it mildly! Let’s not forget serving minors alcohol, human trafficking, illegal gambling and prostitution, etc! The Netherlands has set a fine example for Aruba with their “anything goes” attitudes. Worst of all is allowing those SAVAGES (aka J2K and company and savages live in third world countries) to get off scot free for the crimes they’ve committed against Natalee Holloway!!!

      Carpe – Wouldn’t it be nice if those bombs dropped any minute now…LMAO?? KABOOM!!

      BOYCOTT ARUBA (the isle of third world savages) AND HOLLAND TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE :-)

    47. LilPuma on September 3rd, 2007 9:58 am

      SSE Says: “Brie, as you said a few years ago a taxi driver stopped to get you aloe on the way back to your ship. That is what still happens in Aruba. Can you picture a taxidriver in Manhattan stopping to get you something like that? Kind acts like that happen on a daily basis in Aruba!!!
      My parents still live there and my dad gave a tour of the island to a couple just because they were nice to my kids on the plane.”

      Do you not think that kind acts take place every day in America? A person goes missing and people show up by the busload to search and no one gave them the day off to do so. College students use summer break to help rebuild homes in New Orleans. U.S. soldiers take the daughter of an Iraqi soldier, burned by a grenade, to an Army hospital for surgery and when she wakes up she is surrounded by stuffed animals. A stranger hears about a man in a wheel chair who can’t find his dog after a hurricane, finds the dog and travels hundreds of miles to return it to the man. People all over the country took strangers into their homes after Hurricane Katrina. Sometimes these things don’t make the news, like the Aruban cabdriver, but acts of kindness by Americans are quite common; a daily occurrence. You’re correct that there are good and bad in every country, even America.

    48. Pearl on September 3rd, 2007 11:09 am

      Miss U – I really like your idea.

      There seems to be individuals who persist in suggesting that the murder of Natalee Holloway is somehow “equal” to the murder of other children elsewhere in the world; there are those who suggest that murders in the USA should somehow be thought of as “equivalent” to the barbaric indifference inflicted upon Natalee and her family.

      What kind of minds would seek to suggest to the public, that MURDERS OF CHILDREN should somehow now be relegated to notions of focusing on numbers, as though the disgraceful corrupt conduct involved in NOT caring about returning Natalee to her family, in NOT CARING about how her family continues to suffer, in DELIBERATELY MISLEADING HER FAMILY, WHILE COVERING UP THE MOST DEPRAVED SAVAGE CRIMES INFLICTED UPON THIS CHILD, was – somehow NOT AN ISSUE TO BE ADDRESSED IN WHAT CAN ONLY BE PERCEIVED AS A LEVEL OF SUCH DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE, IT DEFINES “SAVAGERY”?

      Those who would stoop to suggesting that murdered children’s horrific sufferings be subjected to a “horrific monitor” count, to see which one suffered the most, or in an attempt to “liken and DILUTE ONE MURDER OF A CHILD TO THE NEXT”, or in a sordid attempt to suggest one murder is somehow “better” than another, while persisting in EXTRAPOLATING the depraved corrupt conduct of Aruban officials ENTRUSTED with the PUBLIC’S TRUST to DO THE JOB OF “JUSTICE”, – these individuals with this type of agenda seem to have only one purpose, as several monkey posters have already pointed out: DISTRACT, DISTRACT, DISTRACT… AND PERSIST IN A SAVAGERY OF LIES AND DECEPTION THAT ONLY FURTHER TORMENT NATALEE’S FAMILY.

      Distract from the horrific ordeal that an American family of a TOURIST – CHILD visiting Aruba, was subjected to.. the assaults, the purposeful attempts to undermine them, denegrate them, subject them to mockery, ridicule, with depraved suggestions of insurance scams being hurled AT THEM, while they hearts were crumbling before the people of Aruba, as they BEGGED for help that SOMEONE give them back their baby!

      Distract from the fact that hacks who seemed to be linked to the tourism industry in Aruba, would behave in such unprofessional, and barbaric manners as to plant such perverted lies intended to undermine THIS VICTIM in the Aruban press for the purpose of covering up a sickening depravity that Aruban police CHOSE TO IGNORE!

      Distract from those who seemed to be VERY EARLY ON – suggesting that Natalee was using “drugs”, that Natalee was at a “crack house”, that Natalee was off “partying” – people, who knew absolutely NOTHING OF HER creating these purposeful and malicious lies, who knew nothing of her character, while an Aruban woman with ties to Aruban tourism and businesses in Aruba, suggested that this child’s CHARACTER was NOT an issue to be addressed by her MOTHER, BETH, who suggested that this CHILD’S MOTHER should not be believed concerining the TRUTH of her baby’s character, that this child’s FRIENDS who’ve known her for YEARS should not be believed concerning Natalee’s character, but rather – we should instead believe the liars, all those whose DEPRAVED LIES ABOUT NATALEE’S CHARACTER – being instigated by the LIARS who continue to be unable to explain WHAT THEY DID TO HER, that THEY should somehow be “believed” along with all the other willing liars invested in undermining THIS CHILD’S CHARACTER, for the purpose of DISTRACTING from her painful and barbaric TRUTHS of WHAT WAS DONE TO HER. You think there cannot be a name or word summoned for this savagery? You think these good people here can be deceived with lies purposefully being cast about Natalee to suggest SHE was the one out of control, that SHE was the one “partying up” – while the AGENDA from HELL includes DIVERTING EVERYONE’S EYES from the savages who TARGETTED HER, the savages who DRUGGED HER, the savages whose notion of being “with” a young child is to DRUG HER, KIDNAP HER, RAPE HER, RAPE HER OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BEAT HER, MURDER HER, AND THEN STEAL HER BATTERED BODY FROM HER FAMILY, SO THAT THE WORST OF ARUBA’S SOCIOPATHS INFLICTED UPON THIS DEFENSELESS CHILD, WOULD NEVER MEET THE EYES AND THE SCRUTINY OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD, NO LESS THIS TORMENTED CHILD’S FAMILY.

      Posters come here needing to express how “wonderful” Aruba is, and how “kind” and “caring” the people are, but another poster here raises pointed questions: WHERE IS THE KINDNESS AND THE CARING TO SERVE JUSTICE TO NATALEE’S FAMILY? WHERE IS THE KINDNESS AND COMPASSION TO RETURN THIS IMPRISONED CHILD TO HER TORMENTED MOTHER, HER TORTURED FATHER, HER SUFFERING GRANDPARENTS, HER TOREMENTED RELATIVES AND FRIENDS?

      Try as they will, persisting in the conduct of DISTRACTION, only further confirms in our minds, that THOSE INVOLVED IN THE COVER UP of this child’s brutal, painful suffering are EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE for the torment that continues to be inflicted upon Natalee’s family, and upon Natalee.

      You cannot extrapolate the barbaric, depraved INDIFFERENCE AND INTENT TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE, as demonstrated by corrupt ALE and judiciary officials who had a CHOICE, and clearly CHOSE CORRUPTION, COLLUSION, and VIOLATIONS OF THE TWITTY-HOLLOWAY’S HUMAN RIGHTS, along with VIOLATIONS OF NATALEE’S HUMAN RIGHTS, and then purport that Aruba did “all that it could” and in the meanwhile, suggest we all be DISTRACTED SOME MORE, with “let’s focus on how nice people are in Aruba!”

      NATALEE IS THE STORY.
      NATALEE IS THE CHILD WHOSE TRUTHS HAVE BEEN TRAMPLED UPON BY THE VERY INDIVIDUALS IN ARUBA, WHOSE JOB IT WAS TO DEFEND HER TRUTHS, PROTECT HER RIGHTS, INSURE HER FREEDOM…. the SAME INDIVIDUALS WHO LIED TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC – when they had the BEST of what the USA had to offer, our FBI, and instead chose to place them as FAR AWAY as possible from finding this child, and uncovering HER TRUTHS.

      You will never take this child’s voice away.
      You cannot crush her voice; you cannot distract from HER TRUTHS.

      Her voice will be heard, and her right to justice pursued.

      WELCOME TO NATALEE”S WORLD…where a child lays butchered, battered and alone, isolated and cut off from the loving arms of her family, begging to be set free, where her beautiful mother and father plead for help in finding her, simply to bring her home, and lay her to rest!!!

      Justice for Natalee Holloway.
      CONSCIENCES FOR ARUBA TO DO THE RIGHT THING, TO END THIS BARBARIC CRUELTY, TO FIND THIS CHILD, AND SET HER FREE, AND ALLOW HER TO RETURN TO HER TORTURED, TOREMENTED FAMILY, AND ALL HER LOVED ONES.

      Is a burial TOO MUCH for Aruba to summon from its conscience?

      Is the return of a kidnapped, savagely raped beaten, murdered and IMPRISONED CHILD … too much for Aruba to handle?

      Let this child be laid to rest, Aruba!
      Give this child the human decency of a grave!

      Contain the murdering criminals, NOT THE TOURIST VICTIM.

      SET NATALEE HOLLOWAY FREE!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND FOR HER FAMILY!

    49. disgustedmom on September 3rd, 2007 11:45 am

      #30, “Jan Vanderstraaten’s new pad in Curacao! After
      all, he paved the way for this to take place
      and then quit his post!!!”

      Carpe….Jan’s last chance to get some money before retirement was Natalee Holloway maybe?

      ****

      Aruba supporters….if you love Aruba then go there and have a great time. We don’t need to hear about how you love Aruba and support the people there. We don’t care if you love Aruba, so why would you even want to get mad with us because we don’t think Aruba is cool and so feel you need to defend them? You make no sense.

      Well, you say you want to right a wrong…but you can right the wrong you see while at the same time working to hold Aruba accountable for their crimes against Natalee. But you don’t participate in that. You give lip-service-a token gesture- to say how awful it was about Natalee, but you don’t get involved in posting against the crime on an active basis; you ignore the crime except to say ‘it happened’ and your only concern is that you don’t like us bashing Aruba and you only come here FOR that purpose.

      You are taking up space just to hear yourself talk. It’s boring!

    50. Vicki on September 3rd, 2007 11:54 am

      Pearl, thank you so much….you said it all..and one more thing…who cares how nice some arubns are? Does this give Natalee back???Does it stop what happened to Natalee?? NO! so does it matter how wonderful the arubans are? NO

    51. SSE on September 3rd, 2007 11:58 am

      Quite a few of you proved my point this morning. You just read information on this blog and made your own conclusions without looking into it further.
      I live in the USA and would and have defended it any time I was abroad and something was said about that was not true. So having also lived in Aruba in the past I can tell you that alot of you are very misinformed about the island. In the 60′s people thought that if you didn’t have the same views as them you were a communist. That is how some of you are acting here. That because I am defending Aruba I agree with what was done. Try and be openminded people.

      #46 Susan, there you go again with your ignorance, as a matter of fact the drinking age is 18 in Aruba and as far as them serving to minors, you would be surprised how many places ( probably not on purpose) or even parents serve alcohol to minors here in California (just an example Lindsey Lohan).
      Not sure if you know there are Casinos in Aruba because gambling is legal.
      I have also been to the Netherlands, one of the countries with the highest literacy rates in the world with different laws than the USA but that doesn’t mean anything goes.

      #45 Have you spoken to 1 Aruban that agrees with Chavez? Most Venezuelans don’t even agree with him.

      #47 Did I say no act of kindness happens in the USA? At no time did I say that, I was just making the point that it does happenen in Aruba and I was using Manhatthan as an example from a place where I didn’t encounter lots of friendly cabdrivers.

      #40 So Brie, please let me know what is coming to me?

      #42 Vicki
      As a matter of fact I have seen adds in the USA about Florida claiming to be a paradise etc. If That is what you are referring to. Aruba never claimed to be perfect, they are defending a country that has gotten a bad rap because of a few people and that is not fair.
      Vicki are you going to make sure the Jean Bennet mystery is sovled? and how about the thousand other unsolved mysteries here.

      #40 Brie
      For your information I don’t agree with how the case was handled, but is was mostly done due to incompetence. The police on the island are not used to dealing with murder cases. I have faith that with the help of the dutch police that eventually everything will come to light. I pray for Natalee, her family and the island of Aruba on a daily basis. My parents live there and it hurts to see people wishing the whole island doom.
      _______________________
      SM: SSE – you are about 27 months too late attempting to sway opinion (klaasend)

    52. Wicky on September 3rd, 2007 12:06 pm

      I have four simple words for Aruba officials

      “SHE LIVES THROUGH HIM”

    53. Vicki on September 3rd, 2007 12:29 pm

      51- you need to get your parents off of that freakin place…you really do. Things are horrible over there and will probably get worse…so get them out while the getting is still good.

    54. Warlock77 on September 3rd, 2007 2:17 pm

      Masha Danki, SSE.

    55. RdC on September 3rd, 2007 2:33 pm

      Since natalie is missing everybody is blaming it on Aruba! But helooww Aruba did it’s best to find her all day long..they can’t help that natalie had no discipline to talk to other strangers and go with them so as you see Natalie was the one who wanted to drink have fun and act like a BITCH! But nooooo supposedly she’s the Greatest Angel on EARTH!! Pff up yours BETH!! Beth planed all this.. all what beth wanted was $$$ISURANCE$$$ and you guys are follewing beth but beth don’t give you guys not even a penny!
      ___________
      SM: Once again we allow certain comments to show the ignorance and hate that exists out there.

      You are an ass … get a clue. You are truly a sick, sick person. Your words more than show your ignorance.

    56. disgustedmom on September 3rd, 2007 2:57 pm

      Hey Joran…I’ve got one thing to say to you…4:23AM give or take a minute or two.

    57. Carpe Noctem on September 3rd, 2007 3:15 pm

      >Vanderstraaten for money.

      Could be Digustedmom,
      but I don’t think so.

      I think it was just one good old boy
      scratching the back of another.
      Seemingly such a simple act, huh?
      Maybe Jan could even rationally
      explain his reasoning of why
      he did it?

      PERHAPS IF JORAN STOLE

      SOMEONE’S FREAKIN’ BICYCLE!

      He overdosed her on a date-rape drug for
      crying outloud!!!! She died while he was
      sexually abusing her. SAY WHAAAAAAAA???

      Heck, Joran gives us play by play on how
      that part happened.

      FINGER, SHE WAS GOING TO SLEEP, JOLTING AWAKE AGAIN AND AGAIN, RUBBING BREASTS…

      Until of course, his legal
      counsel advised “YE OLE SPORTER” to stop
      saying he was getting one up on DE GIRL,
      because if they don’t pop yas for Murder 1,
      then they’re coming after yas hiney
      for RAPE.

      ALL now witness how the

      Vandersloots are allowed

      to rewrite history in Aruba,

      once again.

      UNBELIEVEABLE!

      ENOUGH OF THIS BS ALREADY. – Deepak

      Aruba will not be able to explain this
      case away in twenty years, if they continue
      to hold their stance. There is too much dirt
      to write off to INCOMPETENCE. Nobody
      is going to buy that SSE.

      There’s just too much dirt on the floor.

      From Antonio Carlo’s admission that he knows
      Joran Vandersloot played a major role in the
      disappearance of Natalee Holloway, on down the
      line.

      THERE IS JUST TOO MUCH UNRAVELED FOR ARUBA

      TO BE ABLE TO STASH THIS OLD BALL OF YARN AWAY.

      It was N*O*T* due to BARNEY FIFE Aruban

      Police incompetence.

      Natalee Holloway was buried! Not only multiple
      times by her perpetrators, just like Gerold
      Dompig told us on CBS 48 HOURS in Spring
      of 2006, but she was also buried each time
      an Aruban Official looked the other way
      to avoid what they were really seeing!

      If it takes twenty years slugging it out

      in the mud pits with Arubans to document

      and bring that true story out into the light,

      so be it.

      Some things in life are worth fighting
      for. I think if what happened to Natalee’s family
      happened to ANY OTHER FAMILY, AMERICAN OR OTHERWISE, because they didn’t hear about
      what happened in Aruba in 2005… I’d
      wanna curl up and die!

      Nat’s family was put through hell
      on Earth, by a select group of people,
      some of which still happen to live
      and work in Aruba. Until they are
      dealt with properly, I hope people
      keep the wicked heat on them.

      ……….

      Justice 4 Natalee

      http://tinyurl.com/ypvm9m

      -Justice for Natalee

    58. disgustedmom on September 3rd, 2007 3:21 pm

      #51 SSE…I got this far, “Quite a few of you proved my point this morning. You just read information on this blog and made your own conclusions without looking into it further.” …and I said to myself, Oh here it comes; now she’s gonna start with trying to pretend like she cares about something other than Aruba…..and you did, so here’s something to think about before you post anymore and have to encounter more flak to defend….try not being exclusively interested in the wonders and welfare of Aruba when you post and maybe you won’t come off that you are not here for Natalee but to take up for Aruba (which if you haven’t paid attention – this is not a place for anything but trying to promote justice for Natalee…Aruba is on the other side of that interest, hence Aruba is not going to be promoted here in any way but sour. No sleeping with the enemy, you see?)

      If you want to be a serious part of this community then get onboard with the board; otherwise, you are just another troll.

    59. joe bear on September 3rd, 2007 5:19 pm

      some of you go to far.I seek justice for Natalee,because she was a good person.I do not stoop to slander as some of you do.We know the guilty parties,like jvds.let others express their views,without being a troll.You should be ashamed # 26

    60. arubagirl on September 3rd, 2007 5:19 pm

      That’s a valid question Sunny. I don’t hate SM. I get exasperated at some posts on the front page that say things like “Die Aruba die”(paraphrased). Mostly it’s amusing to me.

      In fact, I’m chatting with some people of SM right now.

    61. ben on September 3rd, 2007 6:36 pm

      Dont know how much damage the hurricane did to Aruba,but this along with the injustice of natalee, does not help tourism. GOD BLESS NATALEE

    62. Susan on September 3rd, 2007 7:03 pm

      SSE – I’m far from ignorant :-) I know what the drinking age is in Aruba, but 18 is much too young, therefore it SHOULD NOT BE!! I also know there are casinos in Aruba. Like DUH!! We all know that Paulass and Anita allowed there minor son, Urine Van der Slut, to gamble and drink, even though he SHOULD NOT BEEN allowed to!! Just think, if his parents (Urine’s) had disciplined him properly, we wouldn’t be here right now!! The world also knows that the Van der Slut’s are from Holland, the land of “anything goes”. Holland is infamous for it’s “we don’t give a damn” attitude. That is a fact.

      #55 – RdC – You are a disgusting piece of garbage!! Do you kiss your momma with that mouth? She’s probably the one who taught you all you know, you pathetic PIG!! Come over here and talk your chit to me a$$hole!!

    63. Maggie on September 3rd, 2007 7:04 pm

      Rather strange SSE on this thread and Anise on the other Aruban storm heading both refer to Jon Benet Ramsey as Jean Ramsey. Rather nice to mention OJ Simpson when refering to Joran Van Der Sloot also.. OJ Simpson was found liable for a double homicide to the tune of 30 plus million.. His career was over after the trial. He’s just a shell of who he once was.

      Why do people come on this heading about Aruba and Natalee Holloway and try to bring up other homicides or African Americans who don’t get attention or “Jean Ramsey”? Not one can name an Aruban citizen missing in the USA and the USA treated the victims like Natalee and her family above..Case in point the total ass above who calls the victim names and tries the big fat lie about insurance.. Just like all the other citizens who have gone missing in Aruba. Now name me a missing Aruban 18 year old missing in the USA??? For those who are worried about “Jean Ramsey” or OJ or any other missing person start a blog and do something about it instead of coming on one about Natalee to whine about others. We are here for justice for Natalee. I have a friend, a retired cop, who went to Aruba in may and just being nosey, he asked questions. He was told there is no crime in Aruba.. He was told Natalee died of alcohol poisoning and washed away in the water..Everything was all the victims fault. I’m so sick of hearing about other crimes to try and make Natalee seem so unimportant. Her name is Natalee Holloway and her life was just as worthwhile as anyone else’s here or in Aruba. She wasn’t that girl or just a girl..She was Natalee and she lost her life in Aruba while celebrating her high school graduation. Noone has seen her since she was in the company of J2K.

      RDC must be Dennis Jacobs without his coffee, frosted flakes and razor again.

    64. mayan_moons on September 3rd, 2007 7:04 pm

      I saw with my own eyes how Aruban’s talk out of both sides of their mouth, flat out lie and a most bizzare placating/waiting game going on with certain ALE, reporter’s and spokesperson’s AND Aruban people lonnng before i read this blog or any other internet site discussing the case. So your theory is crap as usual.

      When you protect the criminal…..YOU ARE A CRIMINAL!~

    65. Maggie on September 3rd, 2007 7:08 pm

      Rather strange……Jon Bennet Ramsey?

      Jean Bennet????

      Anise on September 3rd, 2007 12:04 pm
      #68 amd #74
      I can see how outraged you guys are about the whole OJ Simpson case. Are you complaining about your justice system? How about the Jean Bennet case how outraged are you? Were mistakes made there too?
      How about the thousand of so missing cases (especially African American women) that no one seem to care about? How outraged are you, what are you doing about it.

      SSE on September 2nd, 2007 11:18 pm

      Disguted mom,
      i will come here and defend Aruba because I know you would defend the Usa if people were bathmouthing your country because of the Oj Simpson ordeal as if everyone in your country were to blame for him being aquited or if they called the police incompetent because they couldn’t solve the Jean bennet murder. ( I know I defend the USA every time I’m in another country and an untruth is told)

    66. Susan on September 3rd, 2007 7:09 pm

      BTW, SSE – Who cares how high a country’s literacy rate is? The important thing is COMPREHENSION, but apparently the savages of Aruba have a very low comprehension rate of what they’ve read, been told, heard on the news, etc. :-(

      Oh yeah, hurricane season ain’t over yet…

      BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE :-)

    67. brie on September 3rd, 2007 8:09 pm

      Trolls are mean….!!! Re-direct your comments and energy to the Sloots!!!! Take a big bite out of them!

      Maybe they’ll be a special hurricane coming called …Suck up the Sloots! ….just for them!!!!

    68. Carpe Noctem on September 3rd, 2007 8:13 pm

      #55

      Since when did we start spelling ‘HELLO’

      with two W’s?

      When did we start spelling

      it with ONE???

      -Groucho Marx
      :shock:

      justice 4 nat!

    69. mayan_moons on September 3rd, 2007 8:31 pm

      Because of one of the harshest storms the San Francisco Bay area had ever seen Laci P & baby washed ashore so that the horrible truth would be revealed & the killer caught.

      This was a rough ride for Aruba and i wonder how many tourist’s and locals have their camera’s trained on every inch of the shoreline.

      Maybe some tourist’s went to Aruba for that very purpose…

    70. brie on September 3rd, 2007 8:33 pm

      rdc….ridiculous dumb crap…

    71. mayan_moons on September 3rd, 2007 8:35 pm

      lol Hey Carpe!~

      What you said about “Deep Sea” being the first place poppin out of Anita’s mouth is Very interesting!

    72. richard on September 3rd, 2007 10:01 pm

      Arubans are such wonderful people that when Beth Twitty demanded that the Aruban government give her truth on what happened to her daughter … they turned against her and held protests.

      Maybe those protests were not typical of the overall attitude … but as far as I know, nobody dared speak up for her.

      Aruba’s concern is with our dollars, not our people.

      Boycott the place. Save lives.

    73. Carpe Noctem on September 3rd, 2007 11:04 pm

      What you said about “Deep Sea” being the first place poppin out of Anita’s mouth is Very interesting!

      Right, right Mayan.

      It is amazing how many were

      leading us out to sea with their words…

      It almost seems sometimes they were & ARE tryin’

      to say it, without havin’ to come out and

      actually SAY IT.

      http://tinyurl.com/yr7p4e

      http://tinyurl.com/ytt9ph

    74. disgustedmom on September 3rd, 2007 11:18 pm

      #55…..4:23AM.

    75. mayan_moons on September 4th, 2007 12:14 am

      THAT was a definite slip up on Anita’s part, kinda like SP’s “Laci’s Missing” announcement.

      They’re so fond of the she slipped, hit her head & drown theory, afterall every Aruban knows those who drown wash ashore yet here is Anita talking about the deep sea.

      Maybe thats why the FBI wanted to dive & look but Aruban official’s wouldn’t allow it, wanting to send experienced FBI diver’s on some of their many wild goose chases. The FBI never said much but they did voice their disgust with the Aruban ALE & government official’s for wasting their time.

    76. brie on September 4th, 2007 12:44 am

      #72…Richard…I agree, NO ONE SPOKE UP.

    77. brie on September 4th, 2007 1:02 am

      Hey Koen, at Joran’s apartment that night…Sander had Daddy’s boat in the water, invited Joran out that day…maybe that boat stayed in the water overnight…they’ve all left Aruba!!! Interesting!!!

    78. SSE on September 4th, 2007 1:08 am

      #58 Disgusted mom.
      Well I thought we lived in a democracy where I had freedom of speech, but I guess as soon as I don’t have the same viewpoint you have I am a troll. What kind of communist crap is this?

      Susan just for your information in addition to the drinking age being 18 in Aruba the driving age is also 18. The rate of DUI’s in Aruba and other countries where the age is 18 or 19 is far lower than the USA. When I was in College I did not know anyone at my school (FL) that did not have a fake ID. Because the drinking age is lower there there’s no need for the fake ID’s
      The problem occurs when American teens that are not used to drinking go crazy when they are suddenly permitted. I have seen first hand how crazy some of them got in Cancun.

      Maggie, OJ Simpson moved to Fl amd his kids went to private school and had a beautiful house, so eventhough he’s a shell of the man he used to be he’s better off than most Americans.
      The reason other unsolved crimes here are being brought up is because it has been said that Arubans are not causing an uprising about the case and my point is there doesn’t alway seem to be an uprising about injustices here either.

      #64 Mayan moon
      You must have gone to Aruba and spoken to everyone to draw the conclusion that they are all liers. Please try not to generelize. I don’t agree with what you are saying, but I’m not making the assuption that all Americans think like you do. I know better. As a matter of fact I received numerous calls from friends accross the uSA today inquiring how my parents fared after the storm.
      And my parebts love it there and are not planning on moving.

      #66 Susan.
      Obviously our president(government) cares about the literacy rate (No child left behind) And for you information literacy and comprehention go hand in hand.

      Brie, how old are you, first I’m mean, than you will never be nice to me again and now I am a mean troll. I am crushed :(

    79. brie on September 4th, 2007 1:16 am

      Freddy did the video at Joran’s apt…Papa Sloot wasn’t asleep like he said…Mama Sloot was away…he was somewhere doing something…it was a horrid night out…that cost Natalee her life!!!!

    80. SSE on September 4th, 2007 1:21 am

      To Arubagirl:
      Di Nada!!

      Anise, you go girl.

    81. mayan_moons on September 4th, 2007 1:54 am

      Can’t you read SSE? I said everyone from the top to bottom who spoke on tv lied through their teeth to the American’s & others arround the world. Retracting statements and like the criminal’s who took Natalee couldn’t keep their story straight from one day to the next.

      And for the record i don’t give a rat’s ass where you or your parents live.

    82. brie on September 4th, 2007 1:55 am

      Whatever Renfro paid you, out of the pocket of Paulus…you need to get your money back because it’s not working….!!! I’m sure there’s alot of clean-up needed on your island after the tropical storm so do some justice there…. your time here is worthless…!!!!

    83. mayan_moons on September 4th, 2007 1:57 am

      Not all are liar’s SSE…..the other half are just cowards.

    84. brie on September 4th, 2007 2:18 am

      ALERT….TROLL ON BOARD…SECURE ALL STATIONS….MEETS ALL SPECIFICATIONS OF ORIGIN….CAPTURE AND TORTURE LIKEWISE….IT’S MEAN AND BITES!!!

    85. SSE on September 4th, 2007 2:19 am

      #58 disgusted mom,

      I came across this blog when I was searching for information about hurricane Felix. The headline said something to the effect of Felix taking aim on Aruba, and there was no mension of Natalee in the heading.

      Anyway this has been so much fun, but LIFE calls(and I have one). Got to go back to work tomorrow. Won’t have time to entertain you guys any further.

      One last advice, Stop being so uptight, chill and get a life!!! Chao

    86. brie on September 4th, 2007 2:25 am

      Euthanize if necessary…!!!

    87. brie on September 4th, 2007 2:34 am

      Let’s stop feeding the troll….it was sent here on purpose….!!!

    88. Ray Wood on September 4th, 2007 3:38 am

      When Hugo Chavez blockades Aruba with those nine
      new submarines and the cruise line all say goodby. Aruba will have to surrender and become
      part of Venezuela. Then we will see how proud
      # Anise will be then.

    89. Susan on September 4th, 2007 5:53 am

      Thanks, SSE, for proofing my point in reference to READING COMPREHENSION…LMAO!!

      Good day to all :-)

      BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND TIL HELL FREEZES OVER!!!

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE :-)

    90. disgustedmom on September 4th, 2007 7:46 am

      #78

      Freedom of speech? I always love it when folks play that card.

      1st off, you are speaking, are you not?

      2nd, FOS really only applies to speaking out about the government.

      3rd, this board is not bound to the US Constitution.

      4th, why do I have to be a communist for using -as you say- ‘FOS’?

      People like you twist things to your own advantage. Justify, justify, justify. *eye roll* But you don’t get it yet; your basic views about Aruba are not similar to ours so that makes you trying to crash the group, hence, troll.

    91. joe bear on September 4th, 2007 9:41 am

      yes,I would love to know more about Koen and Sanders part.IIRC,Sander was the only pimp to greet him,when got out of jail

    92. richard on September 4th, 2007 11:33 am

      Why bother to clean up Aruba? The moral filth is beyond anyone’s ability to deal with ….

    93. Maggie on September 4th, 2007 4:02 pm

      OJ is better off than most Americans because his kids went to a private school and he lives in a nice house in FL??? There are many people in the USA who didn’t send their kids to private schools or live in a big house who are better off than OJ.. Most Americans don’t place life’s value in the almighty dollar.. Most Americans don’t have to live with the fact their father slaughtered their mother, sister, daughter while her kids were in the house. That’s worth more than all the private schools and mansions in the world. OJ hasn’t had a job since he was found guilty of a double homicide. I don’t know anyone who would want to be in his shoes. Once again this isn’t about OJ though, this heading is about Aruba and Natalee Holloway.

      The rate of DUI’s is lower than the USA. Well the USA has 300 million people plus..and Aruba has less than 100,000.. Indianapolis alone has over 1 million people. That is like saying more people get dog bit in the usa then Aruba. DUH! More dogs, more people.

      If laws were enforced the night of Natalee’s disappearance … Joran wouldn’t have been in a casino gambling around the MB students…. Joran wouldn’t have been in a casino gambling underage with his father who had been training to be a judge.. (Contributing to a minor) Joran wouldn’t have been allowed to be in Carlos n Charlies underage with a VIP pass.. Joran wouldn’t have been able to buy Natalee, Deepak, Satish or himself a drink. Natalee and her friends were 18, legally where they were..

      Joran came to the casino where the MB students stayed according to others, he had been hanging around the casino.. Joran went to where Natalee and her friends were at Carlos n Charlies.. NOT vice versa..

      I find it rather odd 2 different posters refer to Jon Benet Ramsey as Jean Bennet..

      We have followed this case daily and don’t need some to come here and tell us what we have witnessed for over 2 years.. LIES AND MORE LIES.

      I’m still waiting for the name of the missing Aruban in the USA??? There’s more than one missing American in Aruba. Please name us one of the people handling this case, who has came out and spoke about this on tv, who hasn’t lied about things?

      The USA isn’t printing out brochures that say ONE BIG HAPPY ISLAND with no crime.. We put our crimes on the front page along with our scandals.

      Her name is Natalee Holloway.. She lost her life in Aruba celebrating her high school graduation. Last seen in the company of Joran Van Der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe.. They lied to the police and framed 2 men for the crime of Kidnapping and murder. To this day, Deepak and Satish say Joran walked home barefooted.. Joran says Satish picked him up.. but he didn’t want to go down by Natalee to get his shoes..however he left his shoes by the Marriot, nowhere near the fisherman’s huts where he says Natalee was. No matter how many times crime somewhere else is brought up, it still doesn’t change that.

      Helloooooooooooo AHATA….

    94. disgustedmom on September 4th, 2007 5:15 pm

      #87, I’m with ya, Brie…but don’t you just love the way it says it was searching for info about felix when it found this place? LOL….when I google and end up on a site that is not what I was looking for I try another site. Not IT though. IT stayed and stayed and stayed as if she had found The National Hurricane Center site! Aborted its mission to find info on felix? Or came here on purpose like it does everyday? We all know the answer! :)

    95. brie on September 4th, 2007 7:32 pm

      #94, hahahahaha….sure took it long enough to realize we’re not The National Hurricane Center….initially it probably went surfing looking for it’s cat!!!!

    96. joe bear on September 4th, 2007 8:20 pm

      95-huh,what cat.Good points to many,but what of the pimps.They are the guilty parties.Where is the troll

    97. disgustedmom on September 4th, 2007 9:02 pm

      #95, well it’s cat got away and flew to Mexico!

    98. brie on September 4th, 2007 9:18 pm

      #95…Right on!!!!That’s probably why it said it had to leave!!!! I gotta find my cat!!!

    99. brie on September 4th, 2007 9:23 pm

      …..I like funny….it’s really good to laugh sometimes!!!

    100. disgustedmom on September 4th, 2007 10:32 pm

      Yeah, it is good to laugh! Thanks for playing along! :)

    101. brie on September 4th, 2007 11:02 pm

      ….#100..Me too!!!

    102. brie on September 4th, 2007 11:08 pm

      …#96…nevermind!!!

    103. brie on September 4th, 2007 11:10 pm

      #96…the troll died..!

    104. JusticeforNatalee on September 5th, 2007 9:17 am

      #93

      And don’t forget this fact, Maggie:

      Dennis Jacobs, an officer of Aruba Law Enforcement, knew
      that spiking of drinks was going on at Carlos and Charlies.
      He even admitted it to Dave Holloway.

      However, ALE did NOTHING about the SPIKING OF DRINKS.

    105. disgustedmom on September 5th, 2007 9:52 am

      104….I hope people are still looking here because what you mention about the known practice of drinks being spiked at CC’s brings up something I recall from early posts….

      Does anyone else recall: It was said that CC’s was under some sort of legal requirement/punishment to close at 1AM instead of later like the other bars because they had been found in violation of some law. As I recall it said CC’s had not always had to close at 1AM…so it would interesting to know WHEN they encountered a legal problem that forced them to shut down early.

      And also, what WAS that legal issue? Could it have been spiking drinks? And if so, could the timeline find another tourist who may have had proof her drink was spiked? If so, what other information might this person have?

      Maybe someone better at researching (with a high speed connection that I don’t have) could find out what happened at CC’s that forced them to be made to close earlier than the other bars.

    106. Pearl on September 5th, 2007 12:30 pm

      104 and 105: J4N and DM:

      The apparent posture by certain corrupt ALE officials, that permitted the spiking of drinks, of which Dennis Jacobs, the polis officer, referenced to Dave, would suggest to us that the infrastructure in Aruba is corrupted and unsafe.

      If young people can be lured into a dance-hall restaurant, where amongst other things, spiked drinks are a known fact of practice at the tourist attraction,and these practices are permitted by polis officials who do nothing to stop it, then how can Aruba be safe for young people, for any people at all anywhere in Aruba?

      We know that there is a pattern to this conduct whereby young girls were drugged and kidnapped, then raped because we know from Joran that they did this “twenty times before”.

      If restrictions were in place, if measures had indeed been taken, then Natalee would have been protected, and she would have come home.

      WHY WERE THE OTHER YOUNG GIRLS WHO WERE VICTIMIZED BY JORAN, SO AFRAID TO TELL THEIR STORIES?

      So what then set Natalee apart from the other 125 MB students, who were all celebrating their graduation with her?

      The unconscienable group of tourism-industry hacks, whose agenda included denegrating Natalee in their failed attempts to suggest SHE was somehow responsible for WHY SHE IS NO LONGER HERE had only one purpose: to denegrate this child, to undermine her stellar reputation and credibility.
      They’d rather that we believe the word of thugs who couldn’t summon one sentence of truth concerning where they put this child, what they did to her, nor did they ever have any concern for her nor did they assist in any way, to end this barbaric torture that they continue to inflict upon her family, nor could Paulus van der Sloot speak the truth to aid her family in finding her, Paulus – whose first course of action, upon Beth’s visit to his home on 5/30 at 3 AM in the morning, was to LIE TO HER REPEATEDLY.

      Now, two years later, they continue to hack away at this child, because drugging her, raping her, kidnapping her, and beating her, followed by murderering her and subjecting her battered tormented body to what Gerold Dompig refers to as being “buried”, was NOT enough to inflict upon Natalee as they sought to satisfy their savage, lascivious cruelty inflicted upon her.

      Even now, they continue to denegrate her, with bizarre, barbaric lies being generated to paint the picture of what is truly ugly in the corrupt predators of Aruba: the absence of integrity, the absence of a conscience, the absence of respect for a child’s human rights and her family’s rights to bring home their child!
      We know the reason why Natalee never came home had nothing to do with NATALEE, nothing to do with her CHARACTER, nothing to do with her choices, because once she was drugged, her CHOICES ENDED. SHE HAD NO CHOICES, SHE HAD NO FREEDOM, SHE BECAME A SLAVE, A VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, A VICTIM OF THE PERVERTED INDIVIDUALS WHOSE IDEA OF “FUN” WAS TO ROB HER OF HER FREEDOM, KIDNAP HER, RAPE HER, BEAT HER, AND MURDER HER AND THEN STEAL HER REMAINS FROM HER FAMILY, IN ORDER TO DENY THEM FROM EVER LEARNING THE HORRORS THEY INFLICTED UPON THIS BEAUTIFUL CHILD.

      So then, WHAT WAS DIFFERENT about Natalee’s experience, that resulted in 125 other children, who were all celebrating their graduation – TO COME HOME, and Natalee to be the only child of the entire group to never see her loved ones, or her family ever again?

      WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT NATALEE’S DRINK?
      WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT NATALEE’S ENVIRONMENT?

      Natalee was the only student who was served the DRUG.
      Natalee was the only student who was targeted by JORAN, DEEPAK and SATISH.

      How telling then, that amongst several odd comments, Charles Croes seemed to go out of his way to denegrate Natalee, to suggest – that SHE, was “not that attractive”.

      I wonder why Mr. Charles Croes would make such a comment, given the striking beauty that Natalee was known for, particularly when you consider that the thugs who kidnapped her commented that they had “hit the jackpot”.

      What was Mr. Charles Croes purpose in suggesting that Natalee was “not that attractive”?

      What a strange comment for a man to make about a terrified family’s missing child!

      Would that be the first thing you would say to to someone about a child who is missing?
      Why would Mr. Croes zero in on Natalee’s physical beauty in an attempt to suggest she was “not that attractive”, – particularly when the comment is so mis-placed, so strange, and innacurate?
      Why make a comment about a MISSING CHILD’S PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES, when the issue is SUPPOSED TO BE THAT THE CHILD IS MISSING AND NOT THEIR PHYSICAL BEAUTY?

      Was Charles Croes attempting to go out of his way to convince us that Natalee was NOT TARGETTED BY PREDATORS IN ARUBA, AND KIDNAPPED, by suggesting that she was “not that attractive”, using this bizarre commentary he made about her?

      Either drugging, kidnapping, raping, beating and murdering beautiful young girls, with bright and promising futures is LEGAL in Aruba, or it is not.

      Clearly, it seems to be legal in Aruba because of the purposeful, methodical underhanded corrupt conduct of ALE officials who engaged in a cover up with Paulus van der Sloot and who then participated in denegrating this poor child, participating in acts that were intended to mislead the media, lie to Natalee’s family, and distract the public’s attention from the barbaric savagery that Natalee was subjected to, and which continues to take place through all this on-going disgraceful conduct.

      When the infrastructure at a tourism attraction is volatile and dangerous, ungoverned by any laws, absent of transparent governance that models INTEGRITY, ETHICS, MORAL STANDARDS,THE UPHOLDING OF HUMAN RIGHTS, AND THE PROTECTION AND DEFENSE OF THE PUBLIC, while lacking in any interest to protect tourists and the public at large from KNOWN PREDATORY PRACTICES AND CRIMINALS, then how on earth can such a place ever be considered safe for tourists?

      HONOR NATALEE’S TRUTH, BY HONORING HER RIGHT TO JUSTICE!

      RAISE YOUR VOICE FOR THIS POOR CHILD, AND STAND UP FOR HER RIGHT TO BE SET FREE AND RETURNED TO HER LOVING FAMILY AND TO HER HOMELAND!

      ARUBA! CONTAIN THE CRIMINALS, NOT THE MURDERED VICTIM!!!

      CONTAIN THE ANIMALS WHO DEMONSTRATED NO RESPECT FOR THIS CHILD’S HUMAN RIGHTS!

      CONTAIN THE BARBARIC SAVAGES WHO ENGAGED IN THIS COVER UP AND WHO CONTINUE TO TORMENT THIS POOR CHILD’S FAMILY!

      END THIS CRUELTY AND TORTURE OF NATALEE’S FAMILY!

      SET NATALEE HOLLOWAY’S TRUTH FREE!
      LET NATALEE COME HOME TO HER FAMILY.

      JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!

    107. Colleen on September 6th, 2007 2:39 pm

      I was in Aruba when Felix hit Sunday morning. My husband and I were actually swimming in the ocean prior to the eye passing north. It was no big deal and Aruba still is and will always be One Happy Island. They did a terrific job through the storm. Now US Airways on the otherhand…..suck!

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