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Has greed done its job on the Kalpoe brothers, leading them into the trap with the delicious smell of unearned gains (a trend or character defect?). Our Vanderbilt thinks so with his latest cartoon. My guess, so do the Holloway and Twitty Families along with their attorney John Q. Kelly.
Posted December 15, 2006 by Scared Monkeys Beth Holloway, Dave Holloway, Deepak Kalpoe, John Q. Kelly, Natalee Holloway | 316 comments |
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316 Responses to “Has The Trap Been Sprung On The Kalpoe Brothers?”
Vanderbilt excellent as always.
I wonder what rats will run and hide now.
If Kalpos drop the case are they still held to Natalee/JKQ case here in LA, what if they just don’t respond, what happens then?
Vanderbilt forgot to add “DOES 1 through 100″ to that trap!
The lawsuit is not only against the two Kalpoes, but against ‘John Does’ to be named later as discovery uncovers other perps and those who assisted the cover-up.
Translated….this suit is not only against the Kalpoes…but against Joran and Paulus and everyone else that participated in the murder and the cover-up. As discovery proceeds, they will be added.
Wonderful…Kalpoes create jurisdiction that brings the Sloots back in! This is too humorous to be true.
Further, the Sloots NY case was dismissed without prejudice…meaning that they can have their butts hauled into a different court that shows jurisdiction. We have jurisdiction now in CA….
You know none of these losers are going to show up in CA….but, that will just further cement that they are hiding a crime.
Anybody seen Joe Taco lately???
md
P O P !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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-singing-
“He Aint HEAVYYYYYY, he’s my Kalpoe Brotherrrrrrr!”
Eat ‘em smile, boys.
Welcome to THE US of A!
-J4N
Mr. Vanderbilt, your new pic made my week. TY
I BET THE KALPOES do not like what John Q. Kelly is now saying and thought that they had a right to sue Dr. Phil and get away with it, based on the tape analysis in Aruba.
Joran probably feels a little victory since the focus and
finger pointing is on the Kalpoes…but not to worry Joran,
we won’t leave you lonley…you are next!
I certainly hope so!!! But here is what also may happen. They go through with the civil case, say nothing that will get them convicted in Aruba, lose the suit, and never pay a dime and still walk free. Look at OJ as a example.
How sweet the cheese will be! I can’t wait, where there are 2 little rats the head rat is not far behind!
Also, here is another posibility……they flip the script in the civil case to pin it on Joran, and Aruba throws Joran under the prison! Wouldnt that be priceless!
JKQ is a smart man, this may very well be a opportunity for the Klaphoes and John Doe’s to rat out Joran.
California Courts love procecuting high profile gang rapists. They put a Max Factor heir in prison for life. They also nailed a Newport area police chief’s son for filming the gang rape on the chief’s pool table. The Kapoes could not have chosen a better court to give juristiction.
How silly. This did not work in NY nor will it work in CA. All of you think the lawyers for the Kalpoes do not know what they are doing? The issue is the edited Skeeters tape. The issue is Phil.
That cartoon is so appropriate. The Skeeters tape if viewed or read in full gives insight into the character or lack thereof of Deepak. Greed seemed to be a big motivator and that appears to be his undoing.
The USA has a jury system. Unlike Aruba.
Even if there is a settlement in the case they will never see a dime. It will all go for lawyers fees to fight the wrongful death suit. Any leftovers will go to the family.
maybe the k2’s are trying to save themselves,by being sued and pointing the finger back at the real killer,joran.they don’t mind losing.no assets,legaly,that can be taken.I think they are scared.Who is the Chicago lawyer and is he connected to posner.
Jillian,
This is different from the NY case.
The Kalpoes filed first in CA and that action established CA jurisdiction.
I wonder could the Kalopes be using this suit to get away from Aruba, in the event that their may be retaliation in Aruba from some of the big wigs involved in the murder of Natalee, they would be too many people that could get them in Aruba than in the USA?
Who are the lawyers representing the Kelpoes
Justice,
No it is not different. That was the reasoning used in the NY case…Paulus and Joran step foot on US soil, NY, and JQK says that gave them jurisdiction for a lawsuit. The NY judge did not agree. There IS jurisdiction for a lawsuit against a CA production company…however, if there was a crime committed in Aruba, jurisdiction is still in Aruba not the US. I don’t care who the lawyers are for the Kalpoes..I believe Phil manipulated the tape, Skeeters said nothing, and if I had given an interview saying I did not do something and it got changed, you bet I would sue.
# 11: HOW SILLY CAN YOU BE ? it doesn’t matter. the kalpoops probably won’t show and that will further their guilt and involvement in this case. if they do show, they will tell all to save whatever they can of themselves.
JQK knows that they will be the ones to crack. they are weak and if they implicate any of the others, there will be a lot of sleeping with mommy and peeing of the footie pajamas. i bet that is already happening !
Jillian,
To use Arlene’s script: you just don’t understand USA law. There is NO question that the K2s are now submitted to the CA court’s jurisdiction. I not only say this, but Greta and her lawyer team say it; but most importantly (you don’t have to believe us) US law says it. You cannot expect to sue in a US court and still not give the courts jurisdiction.
What K2’s lawyers are planning, I have no clue. But again, I don’t believe that Jamie Skeeters would garbage his reputation on doctoring a tape. I think we will find out the original tape is not doctored and what what played on Dr. Phil is a true representation of that portion of the original tape.
That can only mean that the K2 have lied to their lawyers. But then in the famous words of Mama Kalpoe, “everyone lies”.
This simply has to be a contingency case. The K2 couldn’t afford it - well unless some law firm is hoping to make a name for itself out of this. But I find it doubtful that they would trust these two when there is so much evidence pointing to their complicity in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Then again, there are dumb attorneys; just look at Nifong.
Even if the tape was altered (that would indeed be a bombshell), I can’t see where it holds much money for the Kalpoes. As I’ve said over and over, in defamation cases you have to prove that the wrongful actions truly caused damage and then submit evidence of the damage. It’s not like the K2 had promising careers!
I mean let’s say that it’s proven the k2 and mama were damaged to the point that they could not get employment. Okay, tell me you thing Mama made more that about $35,000 a year and that either boy had any potential to make that much. Play that out for say 20 years and it simply ain’t enough money to pay the lawyers!
Okay, so may the next argument is that they just wanted to clear their names. Clear their names? From what? From someone saying they raped Natalee? They are murder suspects! They lied to the court! They fingered innocent men! These are all true things about their reputations. Mama went on TV saying really dumb things including contradicting herself about what time the boys got home. Mama was really pissed when she couldn’t get that tape back from Dr. Phil with her own admissions on it! That is going to be one real big problem because it shows this suit against Dr. Phil is based on revenge.
Sorry, the Kalpoe family is in deep doo doo!
Jillian,
By the very fact that the Koplas brought suit against Dr. Phil and the others, now they are subject to questioning about the crime. First the K brothers have to prove they did not say that, how are they going to do that?
Also, if this tape was altered and the word is altered, why didn’t the Dutch persue this as a basis of perjury, bring false testimony, or obstruction of an investigation, I find that strange, after the Dutch did have the tape?
The others whose names are going to be filled in under the Doe’s
1 to 100 are probably the same as whose is on Santa’s BAD list.
This is as DELICIOUS as a piece of sinful chocolate cheesecake with
whipping cream and a marichino cherry and sprinkles on top.
Let’s just savor it for a while.
And don’t forget about Jossy’s taped interview with Gerald Dompig,
who was the lead investigator at the time he was interviewed.
He said the Kalpoes and Joran are as guilty as hell.
Jillian
Go educate yourself on the facts then come back and make a intelligent comment. Jeez some people.
#16 Jillian
The tape was not manipulated. It was “edited” for an hour programming show. There is no way you can fit the entire Skeeters tape on one show. This is why it’s called “editting”. Nothing was manipulated.
As far as jurisdiction goes, yes it is now in CA jurisdiction since Kalpoes filed in CA themselves.
All will be watching and listening.
Justice for Natalee~
I also hope that the Dr. Phil show will file suit against the Kalpoes. One assumes that there are enough legal grounds, as it seems anyone can sue anyone for anything.
the ca.lawyer is 30.Even he knows E&O ins.lawyers don’t settle before depo’s,admissions(which are probaly already filed and the clock is running)and interogatories.This from Dr Phil’s lawyers.Their cA. LAWYERS KNOWS THIS.Who is the lawyer in Chiacgo and is there a mob tie in.Are trying to protect themselves from long prison terms,that joran earned,or pitbull’s fate.Joe the growling Bear
Okay, look at this logically, if skeeters altered that tape and was working with JQK, do you think JKQ would risk knowing that?
I don’t think so, JQK is a man with an enormous amount of intergrity, (look at the people that he has helped, most victoms) would he risk his immaculate reputation on the Kanaplos?
Don’t forget JQK with the OJ civil suit?
John Q Kelly
He was the attorney for the Nicole Simpson family civil suit.
I have spoken with people who have (or who say they have) heard the original Jamie Skeeters tape, and even they don’t agree on what they hear. So I haven’t got the vestige of a clue as to whether Dr. Phil’s people altered (as opposed to edited, which is universally acknowledged to be necessary) the tape. But in my mind, there are plenty of unambiguous, compromising statements by Deepak Kalpoe in that interview.
ROFLMAO - This is just TOO rich….2 Kalpoops sue Dr. Phil for “defamation”. Excuse me - how on earth could one’s character be defamed when they are considered murder suspects in the country they reside in?
Tell it like it is Kalpoops - You’re liars, kidnappers, rapists and murderers.
Karin - When will there be justice for Natalee?
I do hope Arlene Shipper volunteers to represent the 2K’s so we can tell her about our laws “which is does not understand”!!!!! Hey Arlene, shut up and just sit down!!
#18 Katablog…VERY well said!! and thats the truth!!
Yes, the Kalpoes are stuck here for the time being, and hopefully this whole thing was thought out. Please Bring Arlene so we can show her what “plea Bargain” is. They hopefully will rat out all who needs to be, point out where Natalee is, and then change identities so that Aruba can never touch them again. This way they “may not” end up like Pitbull. Well see, some more waiting but at least things are happening.
I think the defamation case will come down to each side with their own experts saying he say yes vs. no. So then the jury will hear the next words spoken…you wouldn’t believe how easy it was that night. Who in their right minds could listen to that and think Deepak said no we didn’t have sex with her…you wouldn’t believe how easy it was that night..HELLOOO Jiliian?! Altered my fanny!!
And do you all think the people of Aruba are real happy with the kalpoes for putting them back in the negative spot light….. AGAIN…so much for the new commercials!! hahahahaha
Miss-U, you give lawyers way too much credit. Do you know the history of JQK’s clients. Take a look, and take a look at who Daniel Petrocelli (Fred Goldman’s lawyer) has represented and take a look at who Chadbourne Park represents.
And if he has so much integrity, why do you think he did make any verbal arguements in the case in New York?
Yo Yo
Did you ever check out Tacopina’s DEFENDANTS?
We will see who eats crow. If you know anything about the legal system, you will see that the Kalpoes opened up a can of rancid cooked pork.
Like I said if these tapes were ALTERED AND GIVEN TO HOLLAND, Holland would have been hot on the tails of Phil and Skeeters for obstruction.
Tell Anita I hope she gets a new camera for Christmas
yoho: the new york case was decided before it even got off the ground. yout taco boy whined and cried his way out of that one not to mention the aruba delegation was in new york the week before this happened and i’m sure they got a word in.
Hey!!! Somewhat on this topic….Can I file a lawsuit against the Kalpoes as well. Since this tragedy I have refused to ever ever go to Aruba again. They have made me terribly afraid to travel nearly anywhere as I have two teenaged girls. My daughters in turn are now afraid to travel too. this has had a tremendous effect on our quality of life. How can I get some compensation here? I want to sue them all.
Further to this, my wife has suffered good and hard as I spent hours and hours of my life watching this case, puoring over reports and thinking of this daily. The mental anguish we all endured is unfair.
I am so happy to hear about this, I just want to wish JQK good luck. Go get them!!!
Hi All…. The part of the SM article that reads….
“My guess, so do the Holloway and Twitty Families along with their attorney John Q. Kelly”
….initially, made me think that the SM article is also saying that the Holloway’s & Twitty’s are being “greedy” and seeking the “delicious smell of unearned gains.”
IMHO, Someone at SM may *definitely* want to *seriously* consider re-writing the “My guess, so do the Holloway and Twitty Families along with their attorney John Q. Kelly” personal comment.
Best Regards, WorldJOURNIER
The Natalee Holloway Timeline of Persons, Known Crimes Suspects & Outright Lies
http://members.aol.com/WorldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html
Not only will they find out that Skeeter’s tape was NOT manipulated by the Dr Phil staff — only edited to work with the 30 second soundbite,
But they will find out that Skeeter’s tape WAS manipulated by the Aruban authorities — before they decided to distribute it. As we have known all along.
Just one more reason to start singing ‘oh, happy day’
Justice for Natalee
Justice for Natalee is almost here. I may get my Christmas gift after all.
Notice on the Complaint that there are 100 John Doe’s
Who do you think they are?
1. Paulus
2. Joran
3. Steve Croes
4. Michael Dompig
5. Guido Weaver
Check out the complaint
page 13 of 19 article 38. Jorans answes to van der Straaten as to w to where the girl was buried.
” I think that it was buried next to the wall of the Fishermans’s hut, for the rest I would not know”
This statement says it all.
Does anyone have a link to the complaint filed by the Kalpoes?
World Journier: Here’s how it reads to me.
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Has greed done its job on the Kalpoe brothers, leading them into the trap with the delicious smell of unearned gains
(a trend or character defect?).
Our Vanderbilt thinks so with his latest cartoon. >>
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* Vanderbilt, thinks that GREED ( The Kalpoes’
Achilles’ Heel ) has snapped the trap down on top
of them.
The lure — visions and delusions
of ‘unearned gains’ — aka Dr. Phil’s
Sugar Plumbs dancing in their
pin heads.
The H/T Family & JQK —* SM thinks *—-
may feel the
same way as the VANDERBILT.
( that the Kalpoes
got trapped by
their unfettered GREED )
Yayyyy!
….
Respectfully, WorldJOURNIER
… that sounds
correct to me.
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my .02
…and if I may…
I’d like to
throw in THE FOLLOWING:
That D & S Kalpoe
get a ‘FLY BY’ done
on their house
by old St. Nick
…and
he tosses
them an effin brick
cleverly hidden
in the bottom
of their stockings!
Merry Christmas !!!!
HO!! HO!!!! HO!!!!!
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PEOPLE BTW - If you have not,
check out W. Journier’s
NAH Timeline.
It’s 700-800 pages! A virtual
encyclopedia set on what happened.
World Jouriner’s work speaks for
itself. It kicks a$$.
See # 40 for link, and
check it out.
-J4N
#45 - Miss U
Try this link below
http://www.esnips.com/doc/138fd635-7fee-486a-ab92-a3189f641a1e
It should bring up a link where you can download a PDF file and read it.
The Chicago law firm mentioned in the suit is: http://www.cksslaw.com and the attorney of record is Kristina Beck.
Karin;IMO- you are as guilty as the perps,you’re going down as well.Those Kalpoe boys are on a clean up Aruba mission.In return they will be furnished new idenity.I’m just not sure I want them over here, where justice is served.I smell a plea.Wonder if Joron wished to plea as well.I hope not.Then we would be back to square one.Back to Karin.you are pathatic.You call yourself a prosecutor.You are a corrupt state official,maybe you have no choice,come to America and tell all.In return ,I’m sure,you will receive protection.Natalee is America’s role model as a beautiful teen daughter, with a very promising career,Beth imo is America’s model mom.This story is on fire,it’s stronger than ever.If this story ever weakens,don’t wory it will fire up again and again.You see America is inlove with Beth and Natalee.America doesn’t quit. NEVER
Skeeters “I’m sure she had sex with all of you”
Deepak “SHE DID. YOU’D BE SUPRISED HOW SIMPLE IT WAS”
Simple was it Deepak? As opposed to difficult? EXPLAIN.
Oh Happy day- Oh Happy day- sing it baby 1
Justice;
I hope you’re not reading.Monkeys,If that cartoon were a poster, I’d buy it.I’d buy several.Classic-Priceless
100 unnamed John Does…..
ouch!
Dr. Phil Update on Monday!
Dr. Phil comes out swinging!
Where are those Kalpukes?
For those that think that this is going to be a walk in the park, think again. These people have avoided justice for THIS long, who’s to say it’s not another ploy? Everybody knows who’s calling the shots in Aruba, the ever-so-famous “Judge in Training”.
I hope that the Kalpoes are using this lawsuit as a means to rid themselves of his power, but I’m not even counting on that. Besides, if they really wanted to buck the Sloots, perhaps they would have done it a long time ago.
Personally, I think that the Kalpoes are meerly puppets in the hand of a mad man whose only interest is in protecting himself and his son from prosecution. Perhaps he thought that he would throw us a bone to distract us from the way that we can REALLY get him and his house of cards that are made up of all his under-handed thugs. Don’t you think that it is perfect timing for yet another distraction while we are so close in proving the ties that this man has with the Dutch?
Holland has cards it needs to play and if I were them, I’d get in the game. More and more people are becoming aware of the things that the Dutch have going on in Aruba as well as the Dutch Antilles. There IS an underworld, everybody knows that, but does Holland support it? At this point, it looks as though they do. The lack of prosecution is a good indication of that. The Dutch need to wake up and take a good hard look at the one that they are in bed with.
I have been waiting (like so many others) for this trio to screw up and justice will prevail… justice for Natalee and her family.
Juron;Feel the heat?You haven’t seen heat yet.There is alot of HEAT in your future,especially in your next life.Burn baby Burn!
Remember when JQK was on Greta’s show not long ago about the OJ interview and book and she asked him about Natalee’s case and he said they are working on something and to stay tuned.
I researched the Chicago firm and joet’s firm.Why does repersent people like the bar that allowed what happened to Immette to happen due to their greed and dishonesty.YOYO,are you a mob lawyer.
Maggie (#57):
Yep. And remember that just last week, we had a poster
that said that someone was getting ready to talk.
What was his name? Anyone got a copy of it?
If either brother is foolish enough to take the stand, they will melt like a stick of butter on a hot afternoon. Neither one of them is intelligent enough to withstand questioning by a competent attorney. They will break their silence. The end may be in sight.
Hey hot shots, you will not get a dime from Dr. Phil. Why not write a book, you can call it “If I did It”!
They may be fools, or even unintelligent. But, at this point, I think that they are simply operating on one’s instinct to simply stay alive.
Maybe this is a deal that has been in the making for quite some time. Momma Kalpoe wanted to know what the Aruban prosecutor had in the way of a case against her sons, ie. the plea for a “suspect” list. Perhaps, now, they are willing to cut their losses. Afterall, they have been hanging by a string attached to Joran and Company for quite some time.
We have been asking them to bite the hand that feeds them. Maybe they have, finally, gotten up the nerve to actually do it. We can only hope so.
Remember in Dave’s book when Garrison talked to Deepak about a book and Deepak said the book would be about himself, he wouldn’t talk about Natalee, because noone cared about her.
RAMIREZ: They don’t know nothing about her. Only they know that she was with Joran, and he ask him a lift to bring her down by the hotel, that she have to drop her off, and seeing (ph) that Joran is with them, and he said, OK, it’s fine. What he said when she went in the car, did her friends call her or something. And he said, I stopped my car, that if she want to go, it’s fine. It’s not that, yes, we forced her, or not we, she was with Joran. MY SON SAID THAT SHE DIDN’T EVEN INTRODUCE HERSELF TO THEM, LIKE, HI, I’M NATALEE, OR WHATEVER. SHE NEVER SAID A WORD TO MY TWO SONS.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160562,00.html
Deepak’s June 9th statement. Here he says Natalee said hi and told him her name. He immediately forgot her name, give me a break.
The car door on the right front door was opened. I looked up and saw that it was Satish. Satish sat down next to me. Then the back car door opened. Joran got into the car. He got in on the right side of the car and sat down behind Satish. The girl had also got into the car through the back car door on the left side. She sat down behind me in the car. I greeted her. I said to her: “Hi” She greeted me back and had told me her name. I immediately forgot her name.
VAN SUSTEREN: Any drug use or alcohol use by him?
ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: A hundred percent no. No. He is, like, Mom, I would not smoke or I would not use drugs because I am a sporter. I want to make something out of my future. If there would have been anything of that, I would have noticed. I’m a teacher. I work with kids between 12 and 18 years, the last 25 years. So you’re used to so many things, problems that appear with your students. You’re so alert. And I think you’re even more alert with your own children.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html
Joran’s June 10th statement
To your question how much alcoholic beverages I can drink before I get drunk, I answer you the following. I can handle my alcohol. Since my 15th year I have been drinking alcohol. I am a social drinker. I think that before I start feeling tipsy I have to drink a crate of beer. I cannot answer you how many rum and whisky’s I have to drink before I get drunk. If I drink normal glasses of alcoholic beverages I would have to drink twenty (20) to thirty (30) glasses before I get drunk. If I get drunk I feel tired and want to sleep. I do not get irritated when I get drunk.
Have a great weekend, MONKEYS.
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I am so STOKED!I have been here before,only to have that roller-coaster come speeding downhill.This has happened time after time.That’s okay,I will ride that roller-coaster until the wheels fall off.Justice is in sight,I just know it.I have followed this case since day 7,June 6 of 05.That’s when I first heard about it.I latched on and I’m not letting go!This case has something I can’t explain.It’s special somehow,can’t tell you why,it just superceeds every case I have ever heard of.Go gett’em Beth,the world is in your corner,this case is SPECIAL.
Greaaaaat Post Ayfit!!! Aaaaand THAT’s the truth!!!!
BETH BACK ON DR.PHIL MONDAY-DON’T MISS IT!!
A penal case filing in America against the suspects in the Natalee Holloway case gets a radical and impressive course, because the legal case in the States will soon or later involve the extradition of the suspects.
Aruba, through an extradition treaty that the Dutch Kingdom has with the States, judicial authorities can ask for extradition of the suspects, will put the Dutch government in a difficult situation since the Governor of Aruba is the one that has to sign for this extradition, but in this must be first agreed upon by the Netherlands, because the main suspect is studying in the Netherlands.
Ayfit (#67):
I wonder if they are going to be serving any wine mixed with truth serum before the show?
Just kidding, I think.
Like I have stated many times — I am not getting over-excited about any of these countless “breaks” in this case.
HOWEVER; I hope (and somehow have a gut feeling about this scenario):
The Kalpoes KNOW they cannot “buck the system” in Aruba. They will be set-up as the “fall-guys.” Their only way out is to get to an American court and be able to get the truth out.
My theory is that they filed suit in California PRECISELY to do just that. I simply cannot fathom that any competent attorney would allow them to subject themselves to American jurisdiction unless an agreement with JQK hadn’t already been worked out.
The Kalpoes can come clean without the wrath of the crooks in Aruba being able to do anything about it.
On the next Dr. Phil, the Kalpoes, Deepak, Satish and Mama Kalpoe. Followed by an all new Oprah.
Why you lie to mama?
I can see the writers putting this show together now.
Kalpoes admit to wrong doing, rat out the real perps, get reduced sentences, Mama cleans up real nice with the cash, hires big time attorneys to get sons out. Dr. Phil, Tonight show, Nancy grace, the movie of the week deal………..
There’s the Fox Book deal. “If We did it”, by the Kalpoes.
Its a mockery.
All we want is justice for NH and her remains, so the family can put her to rest properly. And then lock the bastards up forever who did this.
The Kalpoes will either default, flip on Joran, or be in for the biggest ass-whuppin’ in court this side of Texas. A default or an ass-whuppin’ gets them nothing, flipping gets them freedom.
Wreck (#70): Your gut feelings serve you well.
Nothing is going to happen with these lawsuits
PLEASE WRITE TO YOUR CONGRESSMEN (Fax is faster on Capitol Hill:
I am a constituent living in _________, and I am writing in regard to Natalee Ann Holloway, the 18-year-old U.S. citizen who disappeared on the island of Aruba and whose family has suffered enormously at the hands of the Aruban government and law enforcement.
I understand the Holloway-Twitty family is from Alabama; however, there are people all over the country doing as much as they can to help the family recover information about Natalee, as well as to help bring her home to her family.
There is evidence of substantial corruption within the Aruban Law Enforcement which has resulted in a cover-up of enormous proportions regarding the disappearance of Natalee. Evidence points to her murder, the disposal of her body and the purposeful evasion of law enforcement by those involved.
I would like to call your attention to the website, scaredmonkeys.com, at which much investigative research has been conducted. The owners of the website have participated in the actual search for Natalee, and posters have scrutinized the case, finding ties to organized crime out of Chicago and South Florida. Videos of Aruba have surfaced on the Internet which feature local officials painting over probable crime sites among dead bodies on rocky beaches. Most alarming is the part of the video featuring a plastic bag left in a basin through which multiple corpses can be seen - one of which shares identical facial features (hairline, teeth, eyes, and nose) of Natalee.
I appeal to you as a U.S. Congressman to take an interest in this case of a U.S. citizen who cannot return to her country. I hope to increase your awareness of this case and urge you to share the desperation her family endures as they try to seek justice and ultimately recover their daughter.
Please help bring Natalee home to her family and to the United States where she belongs.
maybe the Kalpoes should be real careful from now on, surely the Van der Sloots can see the threat these two pose if they are to testify under oath in the USA. Hate to read that the Kalpoes committed suicide by dismembering and then setting themselves on fire in some cave. be careful boys….you know what your pals, the Sloots, say…no body, no case….hope it doesnt end up applying to you as well.
I understand people’s redicense to get too excited. You are right, we’ve all been on this roller coaster before. But I will point out that in those previous rides, Aruba was calling the the shots.
I feel this will pan out different - even though it will take some time. Different because I don’t think we will see things disappearing.
One thing that keeps crossing my mind is how Deepak is supposedly so protective of Satish. Either (1)his greed got in front of that protection (2)Satish is going to fold like a deck of cards in the first deposition or (3)both have decided to tell all.
Another thought about the lawyers and how the Kalpoe’s are going to afford them - they’ve already signed a book deal which will be released after the trial or the lawyers are sure their story is worth a healthy book deal and are still shopping for the best price as information begins to leak out.
Jon: you are dreaming if you think nothing is going to happen wit these suits. There are a couple ways it could play out, including Aruba jumping the gun and arresting the Kalpoes. If K2 are still in Aruba, they better really fear this because Paulus may have enough pull to get them re-arrested to prevent them from coming to the states.
The timing suggests that this has been in the works for awhile but their attorneys were waiting until the Kalpoes were released as suspects so they can leave Aruba. Does any one know if they are allowed to leave Aruba? Didn’t Joran have to get special permission?
Bottom line: something will happen, but Aruba may beat the US to the punch if the Kalpoes are still there. Aruba has to know that it would be terrible news (Ha, like Aruba isn’t in enough trouble already!)to have the US trump them in proving the case against the three thugs.
Skyboxx… look at the main page, no Kalpoe book like the OJ deal, Judith Regan got the ax and speculation is that it was over the book deal with OJ…
what a shame.
Tom
Good point Anne:
We have also been asked to write to the Queen of Holland, Her Majesty Queen Beatrix; especially in regards to the actions on the part of the authorities of Aruba:
Her Majesty Queen Beatrix
Kabinet der Koningin
Postbus 20016
2500 EA Den Haag, The Netherlands
Special thanks go out to Robert.
Whoever said it the other day, I agree, SM and all the bloggers here have helped keep Natalee’s case front and center. Without SM I am afraid Natalee’s case would be just like many others, long forgotten. They have been right up there , Number One and not letting anyone forget who Natalee Holloway is and what was done to her on her last night in Aruba celebrating her graduation.
And that especially includes you, Maggie. You have always been kind and have made excellent points. Keep it up and soon, we will have justice!
Maggie, Mayan Moons, Miss U, JusticeforNatalee and countless others make this a good place to be. Hugs to all.
Night…..
Katablog, I don’t see how Aruba can arrest the Kalpoes now, unless new evidence comes up. That’s allegedly been the issue all along … that they can’t even call them in for re-questioning without new evidence.
I think I remember reading some time ago that they were denied renewal of their residence permit in Aruba (they are from Suriname, so presumably they need permission from the Aruban government to live there; the equivalent of our ‘Green Card,’ perhaps). I wonder if Aruba could expel them on that basis, if what I remember reading was true?
Miss U (43)… maybe another of the John Does might prove to be Lorenzo van Rijn.
Greta On The Record
December 15, 2006
Richard Freer, law professor at Emery University Law School
Greta:
Now, the one, the lying in wait one, Natalee Holloway’s parents are waiting for the Kalpoes to file, they want to sue them so they can get them under oath for depositions. Is that going to stay?
Freer:
I don’t think so. They have sued in California and their jurisdictional theory is very interesting and I think it’s very creative but I don’t think it’s going to work. Here’s the theory: you can have this personal jurisdiction based upon consent and the idea is that the Kalpoe brothers by suing in California have consented to jurisdiction in California for any related claim. There is case law in California that says that you can have jurisdiction by consent in this way but, it’s limited to the parties to the original case
For example, when the Kalpoes sued Dr Phil and CBS, Dr Phil and CBS have jurisdiction over the Kalpoes for any claims they might have against them, but there’s no case that I know of that allows a third party, like the Holloways to come in and use that consent to jurisdiction. I don’t think it’s going to work.
Justice FOR Natster…
HopefullY JQK will continue to open up a major can
of ‘YE OLDE WHOOPUS de A$$’
on the TWO DAWGS!
Get ready for
“Shock and Awe” you little disrespectful
Kalpoe blankety blank blank blanks.
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-J4N
566 Days
since Natalee vanished
May 30, 2005 while in Aruba –
and the three last with her STILL DO NOT
have the story straight on how the night
ended.
…AND MRS. DO “ABSOLUTELY NOTHING”
Karin Jaansen, ***still does nothing***
Staying true to form.
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Tourists would do well to
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Natalee’s case in NE again
“Natalee died at Joran’s House”
Also calls the case a COVERUP
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63383
I am so upset after watching Greta’s show last night with the lawyer Mr.Freer. He said that the Holloways are a 3rd party and he has never seen a 3rd party come in and do this. He says “ITS NOT GOING TO WORK” because of California’s law. “There is case law in California that says that you can have jurisdiction by consent in this way BUT, it’s limited to the parties to the original case.For example, when the Kalpoes sued Dr Phil and CBS, Dr Phil and CBS have jurisdiction over the Kalpoes for any claims they might have against them, but there’s no case that I know of that allows a third party, like the Holloways to come in and use that consent to jurisdiction.”
this is copied from nationalenquirer.com
INVESTIGATORS’ BOMBSHELL CLAIM: NATALEE DIED AT JORAN’S HOUSE - AND ARUBAN AUTHORITIES COVERED IT UP
In a sensational new development in the Natalee Holloway mystery, Aruban police now believe the Alabama teen may have died at the home of prime suspect Joran van der Sloot.
And island officials protected him by refusing to let cops search the entire property, charges a Dutch investigator.
Noted crime reporter Peter De Vries also claims that Joran’s attorney made a dramatic bid to “clear his conscience” - secretly telling prosecutors that his client DID play a leading role in Natalee’s disappearance.
De Vries, host of a popular investigative TV show in Holland, focused on the murder of 18-year-old Natalee, who vanished on May 30, 2005, after leaving a nightclub with Joran and his pals Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. And his findings dispute the leading theory that she died on the beach after she and Joran were dropped off there in the early morning hours.
Pick up this week’s ENQUIRER to read more details!
Say MERRY CHRISTMAS, Sportersssssss!!!!
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Oh yes and…
Hey David Kock, S-C-R-E-W Y-O-U
you do nothing lowlife Kalpoe
protecting scumbag!
—
I find your latest comments to be - MOST REPUGNANT-
Saying the Kalpoes v Holloway Case
and Aruba vs America
is like a “David vs Goliath story.”
*************
YOU MAKE ME SICKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
*****
It think Natalee may have felt it
was D versus G… with her David to
your murdering / raping clients
(and J’s) Goliath.
“David” lost on 5-30-2005— it was all OVER
for her, she was over powered!
DAVID KOCK - KALPOE LAWYER
OF ARUBA- YOU SUCK.
You are scum of the Earth! Perhaps even sub-scum,
ya know, the thing that forms the SOLID bedrock
for which the REAL SCUM to spring forth. -J4N-
Richard I wonder if it is possible , if the names were listed that there would be close to 100 John Does. I haven’t had time to read thru the complaint completely, but it looks like there are some John Does the attorneys don’t even know of, but may find during discovery?
I looked at the Chicago Law firm that is supposedly the firm for Deepak, I’ve never heard of that firm. I wonder if anyone has any history on that law firm?
I don’t know, Miss U. I imagine that the number of John Does is purely arbitrary, and that more can be added.
Let’s not get upset about all the comments of all the lawyers who are brought on the talk shows to prognosticate. I haven’t a clue myself about the extent of the jurisdictional and other issues involved. I think that this case has a better chance than did the New York one, which admittedly was always a long shot.
But again, if the Kalpoes simply decide not to show up or drop their suit, can “we” get any answers? I simply don’t know … and people are put on the talk shows precisely to raise controversy. So all we can do is see how it goes.
By the way, maybe I’m not too swift on the uptake, but thinking back on Paulus van der Scum’s comment (something like, “I won’t tell all that I know because it might hurt something”) … doesn’t this sound like a veiled blackmail threat? If so, against whom is it levied?
Obviously he wouldn’t care about hurting the family or supporters of Natalee. And he’d stay quiet about anything that would strengthen the case against dimwit son.
So if this remark isn’t empty, it suggests to me that he’s letting some other person or persons know that if he and his family go down, they won’t go alone.
This to me also suggests that other people are involved and/or know something. I’ve long thought the Pimps were involved, but if van der Scum is threatening anyone, it must be someone who has power to influence things.
So the cover-up won’t be ended without a struggle, perhaps.
Richard and Miss U.
I believe that the statement that was made was a threat in that he said that he would talk, when the time is right and that he is waiting because, there would be alot of people hurt.
Sounds like a threat to me. As well as the statement that the Kalpoes made to Joran in the back of the van-transport saying that if they find out about Natalee, then they will find out about ALL that OTHER shit (sorry).
I agree with Elizabeth, there is an underground.
Regarding JOHN DOES. Having done a lawsuit that included Does, here is how it works.
If you know there are other players but just don’t have all of the info, you list that you have Does. Now, you may only list Does 1 through 3 if you know that there were a few people involved (and, you know and they know exactly who they are) but you just don’t have all the information to formally tie them in.
In this case, they have named Does 1 through 100. This is significant. There are the pimps, there are the Van Der Sloots….but that would give you less than 20 Does.
To name 100 Does totally points to not only the murder, but the ensuing cover-up and all of the government actors who assisted the crime.
Hey National Enquirer….write about the significance of naming 100 Does in this lawsuit as it would apply to the cover-up and the number of ‘actors’ involved. This is very significant.
They are casting a big net with this complaint. Once more info is gathered, the complaint is amended to bring in those Does under their formal names. This is why this complaint, if allowed to go forward, is a great back door to get Paulus (the perp) and Joran into the complaint formally. md
I miss Patty. I thought that she was funny but she was the only one that I can remember that posted stuff that had to do with the sex slave industry. She even said that Holland was involved. I believe her and I miss her.
I know that this is far fetched but maybe they were going to ship Natalee somewhere but she resisted so they killed her. Maybe this is the stuff that Deepak was talking about when he said that they would find out about all the other, well you know. And since the father, Paulus was part of it he made threats about releasing information that would hurt alot of people to keep the Dutch from prosecuting in fear that he might talk.
Why is it that Greta always has guests who are so quick to slap down any new route used by JQK? It’s so obvious to me that she is not with Beth and Dave on this. What’s worse, she doesn’t even try to hide it.
I wish Nancy G. were the only one to report on the case, then it would be fair and balanced…..chris
Don’t miss the Dr.Phil Show on Monday December 18th. Dr.Phil talks on the video about Monday’s show at drphil.com. He says that there are new developments in the Natalie Holloway case and he is going to talk about why Beth and him are back together again in their continuous quest for her daughter Natalie Holloway!! Thank you Dr.Phil for help setting up the Kalpoe brothers.
Chris.
Greta doesn’t care about anybody. Remember all her comments during the O.J. Simpson trial? I always thought that Judge Idiot Ido had a closed captioned T.V. in his office that he referred to everytime he hlad to make a ruling in the case. What a nightmare that was. I think that she is one of those people that think that the laws are perfect just the way they are, you know, carved in stone even though many of them are as old as dirt. while some of us would prefer that the law be interpretted on a case by case basis.
Page.
Who are you, the public affairs manager for Dr. Phil? I think we get the message. Incidently, I highly doubt that there was a trap set by Dr. Phil. I am not of the opinion that Hollywood has all that much to do with the everyday lives and decisions made by the Kalpoes or any one else for that matter. Not ALL of us live in T.V. Land.
Richard: The Aruban court would not release them as suspects, saying their was enough evidence to keep them as suspects. Jossy has also made mention that Janssen is still planning something. Now, I don’t hold out all that much hope on that, but I do think the chances increased when the Kalpoes filed a suit here.
First, Paulus might try his connections to prevent the Kalpoes from coming to the USA. Second, Aruba might not want the US to be the one to discover the evidence they already know.
When reading the Kalpoe’s complaint, it even ran through my mind that maybe the ALE paid the attorneys for the Kalpoes as there are allegations that the Dr. Phil show ruined tourism by their statements.
I do an analysis of sorts on some of the statements in the Kalpoe’s suit over at Katablog Some of this Petition is hysterical!
Elizabeth i share you’re sentiment on the countless people that make Scared Monkeys the place to be. I’ve visited other sites but never stayed longer than five minutes (except for Boycott Aruba Site & Aruba Dirty Police) before i came back here.
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Hey chris!
I was thinking the exact same thing about Greta & her
guest last night.
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-J4N
Carpe.
Love the pictures, especially the 2nd one.
Do you know whether this show coming up on Monday is really worth watching? I have tuned into so many of those shows and most of them just leave me more confused than when it started. It just seems like another way to capitalize on Natalee. What do yu think?
#’S 96/98/101/102 “Cloria”:
You’re not very creative when it comes to username picking. If you need help, I’ll gladly submit a list: Imitatress, Copyist, Impersonator, Fraudulent, Assumer, Copycat, Emulator, Aper, Knock-off …
By the way, you are posting with different names, given that you have to change your registration profile periodically. In your #98 post, you misspelled your second new name.
Remember Greta trying to get the Scott Peterson juror’s to say something like (asking them if they wanted to hear from the defendant from the witness stand) in order to cause a reversal of the trial & the verdict and nullify all the hard work of the police & prosecutor’s and the jury.
“Goria” (#98) … Whatever your identity, I have always argued that Natalee may indeed have been handed over to someone who took her off the island. I know people are getting tired of my continually raising this scenario … but if indeed van der Sloot’s remarks about being able to hurt more people (I’m not clear how many were suggested) aren’t just empty bluster, then clearly the most damaging scenario for Aruba would be, not Natalee’s death by accident or on purpose, but her being forced into sexual slavery for whomever.
We also have to consider that van der Sloot might not have any hard information, but might be making these comments just on the idea that when you throw enough s–t around, some of it sticks.
What does this rather unpleasant image connote? Simply that if Aruban officials know that he is prepared to come public and point to their involvement, EVEN IF IT IS NOT TRUE, the very levying of those charges will muddy the water, stir up the American public, and complicate things to an even greater degree.
In other words, it could be that van der Sloot is just hoping to cow everyone of importance on Aruba into not taking action.
But my own belief, as I’ve said before, is that he is on the take from the drug traffickers (seems clear to me that they would want input from a prospective judge) and that he knows that some other Pooh-Bahs in the Aruba government are as well.
Katablog, I obviously can’t say what the situation is, but let’s keep in mind that van der Sloot did NOT get the judicial appointment that he wanted. Obviously, the negative publicity of Natalee’s case would play a role in this … but if he was so important, would the Aruban government have crossed him?
I’m sort of contradicting myself here: on the one hand I’m saying that he might know all sorts of shady dealings in the past, including the sale of Natalee or the handing of her over to the drug mafia, while on the other I’m suggesting that maybe he’s not the top dog in this: that someone bigger is really calling the shots.
In other words … I don’t know!
Minnesota Dad (97), thanks for the info on the John Doe situation. Does the listing of the number of John Does have to be related to the number of potential suspects, or whatever, expected to be uncovered through the process of discovery (if that’s the right word)?
What I’m trying to say is, can we infer from the listing of 100 or so of them that the family, their lawyers, or whoever actually have reason to believe that so many people are involved? After all, Beth’s comments throughout have seemed to point only to the three scum last seen with Natalee.
So could the inclusion of so many JDs be illustrative of a change of mind? Or is it just a legal tactic allowing for extending the suit to anyone whose name might come up?
Basically, how significant is the number? Sorry if I’m rambling here.
My worse fear is the “guilty as hell” Kalpoes win the Dr Phil manipulated tapes lawsuit and JQK cannot go forward with his case. Kalpoes get rich and all the attorneys involved rake in dough but we still have no answers to what happened to Natalee.
#110 - Of course I’m not MD, but the answer is “not really”, though I’m pretty sure that as MD said, if you know there are only a potential 2 or 3 additional people you might only list John Does 1 through 10. You can list as many John Does as you wish and I’ve usually seen it as 1 to 100.
Interestingly enough the Kalpoes suit lists John Does 1 to 50. The other thing is that you would never want to list too few John Does (for example list John Does 1 through 3 and end up needing 5 John Does)
Richard,
The John Does on this would not only include the pimps and the Sloots, but, as information is discovered could include the Aruban Government itself!
My point is that if JQK was thinking just Joran and maybe Paulus he would have listed John Does 1 and 2. Instead, he listed 100 John Does.
Everyone involved in the murder and the subsequent cover-up are on the hook on this one. If 2K sing like canaries about Paulus and baby Huey, they can be brought in formally. If Paulus and baby Huey implicate Vander Strattan, Karen Janssen, Odubar, etc., etc. with assisting the cover-up, they would add them if they had significant discovery to formally name them.
In the end, I see the purpose of 100 Does is to roll everyone involved with the cover-up into this thing….not just Joran and Paulus. All heads will roll. md
#18 Katablog–
You are one of the few intelligent people around…I agree with you 110%. Absolute correct assessment!!!
Hey Mannn -
We were at Carlos & Charlie’s ORANJESTAD, ARUBA
THIS WEEK for the 2006 Year End
Fashion Show!!! A show designed
to show off the hottest fashion
trends in ‘SPORTER WEAR’ for
THE “OH SEVEN.”
( That’s a cool way to say *2007*
for the non-hipsters. )
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Here are some pics
from earlier in the
week: ENJOY!
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JUSTICE 4 NATALEE, people!
BOYCOTT the HAMPSTER PELLETS
OUT OF ARUBA.
(and ya don’t stop.)
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let the karma cards keep falling. One step at a time. Accountability for the actions of the ALE or lack there of. They had other options. They made there own bed. No sympathy for straight up liars. The nerve to look the other way for two of your own kind. Were the Van der sloots really worth it? Youre all fools full of desperation. No credibility. And to think anyone would believe your actions. Now that is hilareous. I havent seen someone sweat like pa van der sloot. That was something out of a movie motion picture. He had no confidence in his demeanor look, eye contact. Oh well that is what you get when you treat people with lack of respect and safety.
I copied and pasted a comment made on RIEHL WORLD VIEW
NATALIE HOLLOWAY last night, but it was not posted.
someone by the sign on name of I KNOW said Natalie was in Canada in an apartment in St. Jerome on Bescassine St. with another girl, and Natalie kept her own name, and her parents are going there to see her..
I hope this is true..Please post this and check it out
Betty
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SM: #1 That is an old made up story from months ago #2 I just went and checked at RWV and couldn’t find any post like that in the last few days (klaasend)
I can’t wait to see Dr. Phil & Beth on his show Monday, that one i’m taping for sure. Dr. Phil got his show because he sucessfully helped Oprah (the defendant) during the civil trial brought on by Texas cattlemen saying Oprah defamed them by telling her audience not to eat beef due to mad cow disease. Dr. Phil specializes in sizing up all parties connected to a case & takes no prisoners.
Regardless to whats happening in the legal arena involving either suit one thing has not & won’t change for Aruba. I’m talking BOYCOTT Aruba, nothings changed there except with that with the help of the Kalpukes, Natalee’s fate stays front & center in the minds & hearts of Americans. That equals bad news for Aruba who has been throwing money at tv ads begging for tourists to come back. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving people, ya got these 2 brothers Aruba knew were/are guilty & protected them from prison and now here they are making you guys look even more stupid if thats possible!
Hear that sound? Its Aruba’s tourist marketing money getting flushed down the toilet!
Ha ha. Sorry dudes, filing a suit in California doesn’t means submitting to the jurisdiction for a suit by unrelated third parties. There’s still no personal jurisdiction. And even if there was, there’s no subject matter jurisdiction. The wrongful death suit is going nowhere fast.
Are there any law experts around. Cuz i was wondering,
If they couldn’t get a trial going with Joran, what are the odds of the Kalpoe’s being extradited to California?
Aren’t the odds of the Kalpoe’s winning the dr Phil suit bigger than the odds of them being extradited, since Joran, who is the main suspect, wasn’t.
Any diff between New York and California legal systems which would make this more likely?
Here’s one - Long but Interesting:
Geez
I tell you running that DUTCH
through the BABELFISH ‘DUTCH TO ENGLISH
GRINDER’ for translation CAN BE A TRIP!!!
Personally…
this is one of the FUNNIEST SENTENCES
it ever spit out!
It’s about JORAN OF OF THE DITCH AND
THE de Vries retransmission of his
last ARUBA-Holloway Investigation Show.
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copy text -
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“And thus still a photograph let
compose, on which is Joran with Natalee to see,
testifies, however, of a complete
sick spirit so that he must be hung
only already on account of that
to his spoiled balls.”
………….
No truer statement has EVER BEEN MADE -
Does that CARIBBEAN MO-FO have
’spoiled balls’ OR WHAT?
ROCK ON MR. DEEP FREEZE!!!!!!
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ARTICLE TRANSLATED-
source website:
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text:
Joran of of the ditch have Natalee Holloway assassinated?
The retransmission of peter R. freezes, last Sunday, was reason the coming time what closed more attention to Joran of of the spend to will. Just like we with Johan Stellingwerf
have done. Natalee Holloway have disappeared and from the beginning became the spoiled little boy Joran of of the ditch suspected. After first seemed that the right would triumph appeared that on Aruba surplus of good and Joran were
including supporters laughing third. Joran of of the ditch had be just as kept from caraïbische wind and sit/now lie in the Netherlands the saint play frankness.
But he cannot write that on its blubberbuik because that he and its pa on Aruba could everything and everyone put to their groezelige and fat, for pa in this case bony, hands will on this in pine low land of course this way easy. Just as towards
the retransmission of peter R. freeze of last Sunday. Joran of of the ditch happen as a boy who gepokt and gemazeld where already rapidly the comparison rises with Ted Bundy, the American serial assassin and, are womanizer who had
then a lot of woman assassinations on its conscience. The hypothese which Natalee voluntarily will swim, or in presence or absence of beschonken situation the sea in went consciously and as a result drowned, seriously can it doubt. Well, she was
of the 24 hours approximately 23 hours ladderzat but that does not mean that you do not dump someone after ‘ use ‘, because there much seem it distorted on.
A scenario
where we believe rather in is that she is run-down against its will by Joran, where possibly Joran’s pa also still even its nose in its stuffed little matter stopped
and she has been assassinated probable afterwards.
And thus still a photograph let
compose, on which is Joran with Natalee to see,
testifies, however, of a complete
sick spirit so that he must be hung
only already on account of that
to his spoiled balls.
That of that ‘ composed ‘ photograph does more think of a psychopaat who, after Natalee have been assassinated, satisfied to house goes and if ultimate bevrediging decides still just as a pornofilm examine to conclude a fatal day in appropriate style. He has not come of course for nothing to
the Netherlands. Did its family see hanging the bui already if he still longer that piepkleine but o this way corrupt island would stay up? Did he have just as from the picture so that he are here undoubtedly onfrisse practices could continue and if bovenwindse wind is soon return to Aruba lively further to go with screwing onschuldige do little girls will lie? In the
Netherlands is not notable he. At least, provisional not, because Crimesite and hopelijk also the research team and therefore the media him with more than
average will follow interest. Joran and its pa think that they have conducted everything and everyone for the garden but did not count on peter R. freeze.
It becomes high time that the arubaanse garden becomes and all on the plot present stays thorough for - and doorgespit because which weet lie there it secret or the indication what has happened exactly with Natalee.
It is hopelijk not yet late this mysterious matter in crime files leave verstoffen. That the matter stinks nobody more are able deny as a result of previous Sunday shown pictures and the questions which have risen after appears that he lay in the retransmission of NOVA, in February 2006, concerning Deepak and
Satish, something what freezes also in programme was shown. The persons in question do not come innocent concerning and by play their verstoppertje (particularly Joran and its pa) and to that coupled arubaanse judicial environment, there obviously everything to located were the matter stifle.
The Dutch speurneuzen the matter of their arubaanse has taken over colleagues so that hopelijk in-depth and conscientious research is done all those question signs answer which
there now risen to be. Answers that as yet by Joran
and its pa are not given must give the recherche i.c.m. enough to starting points the retransmission of last Sunday with heavy armses on Joran and its supporters to shoot. With than average interest more we the case Natalee Holloway and in particular Joran of of the ditch follows because you can slam, however, very bright the door for everything and everyone, slaafjes full instructions to stop itself, little girls conquer and to abuse,
but asked or leave comes above the caraïbisch marine water float that you are responsible for disappearing Natalee Holloway. You imagine yourself you untouchable and above the law raised because you everything and everyone for the arubaanse garden have been possible lead.
In the Netherlands it becomes what concerns that a piece with difficulty for you in spite of that you are slaafjes protected by your Dutch on the high school of arnhem. Also ‘ justice frustrated research reads Natalee Holloway ‘
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Hey, Joran
WHERE’S NATALEE?
-J4N-
We will never let it go.
***k the pathetic Van der sloots who think they are better than everyone else. Pay back is a mother. You had other options they all could of made sure she made it back to her hotel safely. But they didnt plain and simple. Instead they gang banged her and disposed of her like a piece of furniture. They didnt ever think of her as a real person. Just as an object. And then lie after lie after lie. They have shown there true colors time and time. Lets give em what they deserve Justice for Natalee. This is this most expensive piece of **s they have paid for. Are you still sweating papa sloot like the pig you are? What a desperate fool. You raised a pervert with social skills of a 3rd grader.
#120, Hi Crioyo,
I hope school went fine and welcome home even if I am not there in Aruba,
I am not a lawyer, but from I have been reading:
This is a common law case, where the Kalpoes as private individuals seek restitution for defamation from another “private individual” or entity with juridical personality, the Dr. Phil Show. Therefore, this case is not within the context of criminal law.
For a better explanation of the legal suit process, refer to http://www.answers.com/topic/lawsuit .
From what I read, as long as both parties, the plaintiffs and the defendants pursue this matter, not reaching an out of court agreement, then the different stages of a lawsuit process may take place: Pleadings, Pre-Trial Evidentiary Discovery, Trial, Judgment, and maybe even Appeal before enforcement of decisions.
About the extradition matter, that is just not so. I read that in JMM’s article, but a nation requests an extradition from another nation when an individual is accused of committing a crime in the state demanding the surrender of the accused. So technically speaking, if the Kalpoes were accused of committing a crime in Aruba and they fled to the VS or to Surinaam, then Aruba could extradite them. But the VS could not extradite them for a crime committed out of their territory.
Hope this posts … my computer can’t connect to the Internet today, so I’m at the local college library.
Anyway, I agree with Mayan Moons. Regardless of what one legal theorist says, or what another one replies, in the last analysis what matters is what the judge rules. It seems that there are so many laws out there that nothing is clear or definite. We can’t influence that outcome in any way.
But what we posters can do is continue to press for the boycott, and to speak up when we see the oh-so-precious stories about the “tourist paradise” of the Caribbean being run in travel sections. The writers are just paid whores trying to perpetuate the myths of the travel industry.
No justice for Natalee? No tourists for Aruba.
#114 Michelle Says So, I’ve been behind you 110% all along, but am sort of disappointed that you made the above statement. Surely you, better than anybody, should know that there are more than JUST A FEW INTELLIGENT PEOPLE on this site. Who but the bunch here have reasoned out everything from the start and have come up with what has to be the only sensible conclusion? The brain power and artistry displayed here is amazing to me…….chris
Minnesota Dad (113) … Thanks; this is what I was getting at. I would think that the number given is flexible; i.e., if they began with 20 and then found cause to expand the number, there would be no difficulty in doing so. Katablog (110) says, however, that it would not be wise to list too few. I don’t know one way or another.
In any case, let’s do what we can to make sure that the boycott spirit remains strong.
IF nothing else, the lawsuits will only do more harm to Aruba in it’s quest to get more tourists. Sorry Aruba, you lose, regardless of what happens to the Kalpoes. They would be damn fools to come to the U.S. and let people here know it. Maybe Arlene can explain our system to them. We will continue to push the boycott and raise prices on goods shipped there. Notice any increase in prices on U.S. goods in Aruba 119,129?
#119 The Kalpoes made the Twitty’s very related parties by quoting them over and over again in their Complaint. Have you even bothered to read the complaint?
Last night I began speculating just how the deposition with Satish and Deepak would go. The results are at http://www.katablog.com
When the Kalpoes win
money from Dr. Phil & Co…
A van full of ‘Wizard of Oz’ midgets will pull
up to my house, delivering pizzas, and singing
Billy Joel’s “Just The Way You Are.”
–When PIGS FLY!
………….
To quote VAN HALEN-
“HEY DAAAAAAVE, Gimme Me A Break”
“Ha Ha, One LARRRRRGE BRRRRREAK…
COMING UPPPPPP!!!!”
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song- “Unchained”
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Hey momsie doodle Kalponnnnne,
Have you hugged your
*DEMON SPAWN* today?
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BOYCOTT ARUBA!
…now more than EVER
-J4N
I cant wait for Justice. What fools to think that Dr Phil,Skeeters,et al would lie or alter tapes. For what purpose. Im glad it will finally come to light that 2k lied and lies and lies. I cant wait this is gonna be so good. JQkelly can then bring in just what the subject of the lies are!!! What dopes. Karma is a real bummer if its pointed at you.
The Line Up (Fox News) - Dec. 16, 2006 - TRANSCRIPT (Verbatim)
Kimberly: The mysterious disappearance of Alabama teen, Natalee Holloway has keep this nation riveted for more than a year. Now will newly released details in the investigation finally answer heartbreaking questions for the Holloway family. Here’s a look back at the case:
(Video: The search for Alabama teen Natalee Holloway has baffled investigators and kept the nation riveted for the past year and a half. May 24, 2005, 18 year old Natalee Holloway graduates for her Alabama high school, nothing but hope for the future and a whole world ahead of her she and her classmates go on an annual senior vacation to sunny Aruba. On the last night of her trip Natalee and her friends spend the night partying at a local hot spot Carlos & Charlie’s. Then tragedy strikes, Natalee’s friends see her get into a car outside of the night club.. she is never seen again.)
Kimberly: And two new lawsuits have been filed in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The parents of the missing Alabama teen have filed a wrongful death suit against Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, two former suspects in the case and at the same time the Kalpoe brothers say talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw defamed them when he aired a secretly taped interview with Deepak. They’re suing Dr. Phil for libel and slander and we are back with the former Federal Prosecutor Georgia Goslee now and Criminal Defense Attorney Randy Kravis.
Kimberly: You guys can go union after this, I’m working you so much tonight. Coffee break after the show. Alright, so what do you make of this Georgia? Do you think they have any kind of case at all against Dr. Phil?
Georgia: Well, I (don’t) really, when I think about it I’m not really sure that they have a case against Dr. Phil. First of all I think Dr. Phil has a certain level of integrity. I think he’s a little too intelligent to knowingly participate or have someone as an agent participate in doctoring a tape to make it look like these guys made those comments, so just alone on that, I don’t think he’s the type of person based on what I know and see about him, I think he has a high level of integrity, and let alone from that, I just don’t see any real evidence that they have. I mean file a lawsuit people do it everyday, to carry a burden of proof is another thing. From right now from what I see, I don’t think it’s going anywhere.
Kimberly: Alright, we’re joined now on the phone by Joe Tacopina. Joe, we have to stop meeting like this and this time I want you to tell me how you really feel and don’t be so shy.
Joe: Yeah, I heard, I heard my hysterics went over big.
Kimberly: Joe tell me what do you make of this case? I mean you were able to prevail in yours, getting it tossed out but what about this case?
Joe: You know, I don’t know it’s interesting Kimberly. I mean, fortunately we’re not invited to this dance and Joran is not a party to this lawsuit, and I’ll note there’s a drastic difference in the lawsuit that was filed by the Holloway family that we got dismissed. Joran was not charged in that lawsuit, they didn’t allege that he participated in the death of Natalee Holloway. It was a suit that talked about, you know, a kidnapping claim and an assault claim but certainly not participating in a death. In this instance, in the Kalpoe lawsuit they do allege these two individuals, the brothers caused her death and I think that’s a drastic difference and you know, I don’t know what evidence John has, certainly no harm, no foul. I mean obviously they want to go forward and try and get depositions and pursue evidence and look, they brought this lawsuit in New York, they submitted, I mean in California, they submitted themselves to the jurisdiction and now they sort of got what they asked for, they have litigation, so it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
Kimberly: Alright, Joe Tacopina being fair and balanced tonight. I like that. So basically you’re saying it’s a different lawsuit and the jurisdictional issues are overcome so they’re kind of step ahead on this one don’t you think?
Joe: Oh sure, I mean look it doesn’t mean that they’re going to get anywhere Kimberly, what it doesn’t mean is that this lawsuit will actually go forward, it doesn’t mean that they’re ever going to take depositions, but what it does mean is that if the Kalpoe brothers truly want to pursue a claim against Dr. Phil, first that was in fact doctored, there’s no question, the question is whether Dr. Phil knew or not because there were no admissions on the real tape, the one that was doctored had admissions on it but you know, if they really want to pursue that they’re going to have to answer questions under oath by the Holloway family if the Judge allows it to be considered a companion case. I think what’s going to wind up happening here now is they’re probably going to walk away from that Dr. Phil lawsuit and you know they’ll probably never get deposed in the United States.
Kimberly: Alright, Randy I’ll give you the last word. What do you think of the merits?
Randy: I mean, you know it is hard to believe that Dr. Phil would knowingly do something like this , so it is questionable about whether the facts are true or not. But if they are, maybe there is a valid lawsuit.
Kimberly: Alright, so Randy’s verdict is Dr. Phil is like a boy scout and he wouldn’t do anything bad, bad, bad like that. Georgia, Randy and Joe, thank you so much.
Courtesy Debbie/BFN
Can the 2k use this case for diplomatic immunity or something similar?
If they come here and then drop the dime on the others maybe bigwigs in Aruba, can they claim diplimoatic immunity or something like that?
Did anyone notice how calm Joe T was last nite on the line-up. I sense that he feels this is distracting attention off of Joran. He seemed to me almost joyful.
132 - I think his wifey is slipping him Percocets
so he won’tt scare his dog anymore! They’re
working through it, ya know.
Hi Miss-U
http://tinyurl.com/ynh8tm
-J4N people!
How on earth can Taco say that there’s no question the tape was doctored? Has he had the original tape in his possession? Was he there? Or is he simply taking Dompig’s word for it? Pipe dreams that his client is innocent?
Again, it only goes to prove you cannot believe what Joe says because he will say anything to try to make his guilty client look innocent.
Joe: since we know you read here, get a clue. You need to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth if you want to have any hope of anyone believing what you have to say. You and your client both have reputations as liars.
Ford, Walker, Haggerty & Behar
Kalpoe’s attorney
Contact Address One World Trade Center 27FL
Long Beach, CA 90831
Contact Maxine Lebowitz
Phone (562)983-2513
Fax (562)590-3529
E-mail maxine@fwhb.com
Web site http://www.fwhb.com
Provider Number 1547
Thanks Frank!
Here’s a photo-bio snap #135
Kalpoe Attorney
http://tinyurl.com/y9clbe
-J4N
Some More Profile On Maxine Lebowitz
Kalpoe Attorney?
http://tinyurl.com/ymxolX
http://tinyurl.com/yhXwd5
—————
Be Kind To Da Monnnnkey!
-J4N
#123
Hey,
Thanks for clarifying, SL-Gloria…
Are Aruban Officials really dumb enough to think that the Kalpunk’s frivilous lawsuit is going to take American’s focus off of them & the boycott they so richly deserve?
LMAO at Joran’s Spoiled Balls!
Carpe! You’ve got mail!
I hear ya katablog, taco joe calling Kalpuke’s claims legit could land him a date in the deposition chair.
Hey Carpe!
I just sent you email with the name you gave the pic in your collection. Rotate it 180 degrees & click on color inversion.
GO DEETCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/
——-
David Kock - ARUBAN PRE-PAID
Kalpoe Demon Protector,
DEEeeeee—–POX
on your house!
I heard you had a holiday meal at your mother-
inlaw’s house… but you were forced to
leave early
…because her cat kept trying to bury ya over!!!!
—–
Youuuuuuuuuuuuuu are a BUM.
-Ralph Kramden
……
Up yours, 1,000 PERCENT! –Hallmark
…..
http://tinyurl.com/hcfxv
http://tinyurl.com/o4v4s
http://tinyurl.com/gdjxd
-J4N
I’m sure Dr. Phil would love to have taco joe in a deposition explaining HOW he knows the tape is legitimate.
MONKEY AIR MAIL
for a one
Mr. David KOCK
http://tinyurl.com/y6t62o
DECEMBER 18TH
DR. PHIL SHOW
PROMO GRAPHIC
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http://tinyurl.com/yn3sve
-Justice
4
Nat
Frank and Carpe
I believe Haggerty is Phil McGraw’s attorney. The Kalpoe’s is Kristina M. Beck. IIRC
If the information that Frank (135) provided is accurate, then the Kalpoes’ U.S. attorney, or one of them, is at One World Trade Center.
That is so grotesque ( I trust we all remember 9/11 ) that I can’t believe that it is genuine. (No offense intended, Frank!) Just an observation … and anyone who wishes to read an augury into that is welcome to do so.
Miss U (132), the Kalpoes aren’t diplomats, so they would not have immunity. I wonder if you mean that they might seek some kind of asylum here? I can’t imagine it.
Justice for Natalee (131) … In that show, Tacopino made specific remarks about the tape (”that was in fact doctored there’s no question”). I don’t see why those remarks from a lawyer are not in themselves grounds for a lawsuit.
He didn’t say “edited,” he said “doctored.” Not very nice language.
148 Richard,
Kimberly should have called Joe on the use of the word “doctored.”
There is a HUGE difference between EDITED tapes and DOCTORED tapes.
Just Joe’s sleazy way of discrediting the tapes. Joe’s dogs have more integrity and make more sense.
ALL ABOUT THE BIRDS - there are many kinds.
Train you GEO-SATS and
synchronize your orbital
transponders!!!! Wahoo.
- Natalee Holloway -
She is in the Van der Sloots backyard encased in cement.
She is in the Van der Sloots backyard encased in cement.
She is in the Van der Sloots backyard encased in cement.
She is in the Van der Sloots backyard encased in cement.
She is in the Van der Sloots backyard encased in cement.
She is in the Van der Sloots backyard encased in cement.
http://tinyurl.com/yczv8u
Ladies and Gentleman, DON’T EVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
TAKE your eyes off of the Van der Sloot backyard.
Not at night, not in the day, never.
Don’t try to move her her PAULUS.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING, brutha!!!!!!!!
SUCKS TO BE YOU,
sphincter boy.
Justice 4 Natalee
Justice 4 Natalee
Justice 4 Natalee
Justice 4 Natalee
Justice 4 Natalee
http://tinyurl.com/ybffm4
Boycott ARUBA!
Joran Van der Sloot trailed by PI this weekend
in Ornajestad. He was photographed here partying
with his new girlfriend on the Kukoo Kunuku Bus!!!
http://tinyurl.com/shqq3
Were on to ya, we’ve got yerrr number buddy.
-J4N
Here is the only gift I want this Christmas!
http://tinyurl.com/sjkwy
I want it for Natalee,
& the Holloway-Twitty
families.
Will you pray for it too?
TIA / J4N
Thank you Gloria
Richard,
It’s a building in Long Beach California. Just 2 office towers not far from the Queen Mary.
Yes, I saw the 1 World Trade Center building when I was recently n Long Beach, CA. It of course caught my attention because of the Trade Towers in NYC. But I believe the building was standing (and named) prior to 911.
This appears to be the Dr. Phil Show’s attorney.
Thanks, Frank. I just couldn’t accept the implications of the name linked with the Kalpoes’ case … suggesting, perhaps, that the universe has a sense of irony after all.
Justice for Natalee (149), the problem is, I think, that the purpose of these talk shows is by and large to yap, yap, yap with little or no reflection. The more noise, and the more provocative the statements (at least with some shows in that genre), the more popular they are and the better pleased the advertisers are.
But in my eyes, this scumbag SHOULD be called to answer for his remarks. That word “doctored” connotes illegal actions, or it does to me anyway.
Book’m Dano…and I’ll have another dry martini while you are at it…Opp’s did I say that???? :o) tee hee…I am gong to start popping the popcorn…and I have the folding chair out for this event…:o)… Come on in JUSTICE!
#156 Richard,
It’s easy to contact Dr. Phil if you want to suggest that he take action regarding Joe’s comment about “doctored” tapes.
http://www.drphil.com/
richard
Dude, don’t you have an opinion on anything? Your blogs are a mile long and all they are is a summery of whats goin on. First you say this and then on the other hand you say that but it could always be the other. You got my head spinnin. Do you actually believe any of what you write or do you just like seeing your name on the blog all the time. I tried to ask you off the record, but you don’t realy have a website. I guess only mr. clairol knows for sure. Sorry, Dude, but someones got to tell ya.
LOL you’re on a roll Carpe.
Frank….Kalpoes attorney say the Twittys/Holloways are out for profit. David get real…called distraction. Distract away from what DeVries is doing.
Oh Yes -
It Appears That The “Spread MisInformation” Campaign
Is In Full Swing - Guess What ? We Have Seen It Before !!
But Keep It Up - It Just Fuels The Fire !!
Another Thing I Noticed Is An Attempt To Piss Off Some
Of The Best Here At SM… Well, Good Luck On That One Too !!
Looking Forward To Dr. Phil On Monday !
TY Miss-U
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That reminds me…
If you think David Kock is as big
as a flaming *icehole* as I do for
saying something SO AWWWWFUL–
That the H/T’s are looking
to PROFIT ( for geez sake )
on their daughter’s death!!!!!!!
You might want to tell
him what a little
PUNK B1TCH HE IS, like I did.
What really **fries** my a$$
is the fact that *** HIS MURDERING, RAPING, BIFRON
client’s are the ones with their HANDS OUT asking for
money. (for killing dear Natalee.)
I sincerely hope that DR. PHIL and his team *B* slap
these little NATALEE HOLLOWAY slaying, rapist, carnivores
in to next week.
…and with such raw force, that hopefully it
knocks the effin taste
out of their mouths, and loosens
some dental work, might be nice.
………………
DAVID KOCK of ARUBA - KALPOE LAWYER!!!!!!!
YOU MAKE ME SICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.
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Thank you, I feel better
for getting that out.
-J4N-
DAVID KOCK - Ugggggggggggggg
law-arends-